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MineralMan

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52. OK, then. You do it.

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Sat Sep 19, 2020, 01:25 PM

Sep 2020

Let me know how your plan goes.

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The Chickens of 2010 and 2016 Have Come Home to Roost [View all] MineralMan Sep 2020 OP

Why stop at 2016? I would go all the way back to 2000. Yavin4 Sep 2020 #1

I chose 2010 and 2016 because they are remembered better MineralMan Sep 2020 #3

2000 resonates more because of where we were then. Yavin4 Sep 2020 #9

Yes, but we need to be relevant to those who have no memory of 2020. MineralMan Sep 2020 #10

History matters. 2000 is only 20 years ago. Yavin4 Sep 2020 #20

2010 was awful in the House and in state legislatures... moose65 Sep 2020 #24

Exactly still_one Sep 2020 #14

No, let's take this logic back to something like Sherman A1 Sep 2020 #19

Wrong...there are senate seats being impacted by crappy Greens. It continues. Demsrule86 Sep 2020 #74

Oh, sure Sherman A1 Sep 2020 #89

And all the way forward to 2018 FBaggins Sep 2020 #34

I'd go back as far as 1980 and Reagan, who legitimized a lot of factions... AngryOldDem Sep 2020 #48

Absolutely 1994. plimsoll Sep 2020 #66

Yes, he did. AngryOldDem Sep 2020 #75

I agree with some of that rockfordfile Sep 2020 #2

I'm glad to hear it. MineralMan Sep 2020 #4

I hope a good number of people who didn't vote in 2016 or went 3rd party come to... The Genealogist Sep 2020 #5

If They Don't, Their Very Survival Is in Question. MineralMan Sep 2020 #6

I know that Cornell West will be voting for Biden/Harris, because he said so on Anderson/Cooper still_one Sep 2020 #15

I hope so. calimary Sep 2020 #60

Most of them are unapologetic, and some like Gray and Sirota are doing the same things they did in still_one Sep 2020 #62

Great post MM. Demsrule86 Sep 2020 #7

You're too kind. MineralMan Sep 2020 #8

Democrats controlled the Senate for 6 years and the House for 2 years of the Obama administration Klaralven Sep 2020 #11

I think most progressive voters only see it one way In It to Win It Sep 2020 #12

Post removed Post removed Sep 2020 #29

Bless your heart. BannonsLiver Sep 2020 #50

"In Pennsylvania, where public and private polls showed a competitive race similar to 2012, betsuni Sep 2020 #67

Republican Lite ? You mean Sanders and his pro gun stance ? Hillary and other Democrats have far JI7 Sep 2020 #70

+100000000000000000000 betsuni Sep 2020 #73

Ed Markey was Suddenly Good enough for a certain crowd that has attacked other Democrats JI7 Sep 2020 #71

I don't think your post will be unpopular because we've hashed out these issues to death. Firestorm49 Sep 2020 #13

Yes. ismnotwasm Sep 2020 #16

Angry, Frustrated, and Very, Very Worried. MineralMan Sep 2020 #27

Democrats and Progressives don't see politics as a war the way Republicans do bucolic_frolic Sep 2020 #17

K&R, but you need to re-word one sentence Martin Eden Sep 2020 #18

I was going to comment on that as well. I would make one minor change in the word order DFW Sep 2020 #72

It's all about TANGIBLE support now...donate or work for Democrats running against McCONnell, Graham BlancheSplanchnik Sep 2020 #21

Yes. That and just plain turn out and turn Trump out of office. MineralMan Sep 2020 #28

We HAVE to, yes. BlancheSplanchnik Sep 2020 #57

Far too many DUers were on the punish Democrats first plan back then IronLionZion Sep 2020 #22

But it is a shame Pres Obama had to nominate someone that conservative. Ligyron Sep 2020 #53

Righteous words brother. Pepsidog Sep 2020 #23

Yes. Every word hits the mark. NoRoadUntravelled Sep 2020 #25

I am a progressive PatSeg Sep 2020 #26

For almost four years, I've been imagining where we'd be with MineralMan Sep 2020 #30

Not just wasted, PatSeg Sep 2020 #41

democrats need offense, not just GOTV and fundraising - destroy RW talk radio, it's ready certainot Sep 2020 #31

How do you suggest we do that? I'm all ears. MineralMan Sep 2020 #32

That's the question that is always asked. TwilightZone Sep 2020 #35

That's because there is no answer. Without giving up the First Amendment, MineralMan Sep 2020 #36

see comment below. you would have a point if rw radio was not a 95% monopoly that certainot Sep 2020 #49

see below. aside from that, dems don't even poll for rw radio. start with that, identify certainot Sep 2020 #46

all it would take is one major athlete to publicize the absurdity of their team's broadcasts certainot Sep 2020 #43

how many radio advertisers will support COVID denial for 2 months, like all limbaugh stations certainot Sep 2020 #51

OK, then. You do it. MineralMan Sep 2020 #52

dem and progressive leadership and media leaders/pundits etc have completely failed certainot Sep 2020 #54

Limbaugh is only the tip of the boil,not the infection itself. Look at who owns local TV stations... Hekate Sep 2020 #87

limbo basically leads messaging on 1500 radio stations for the COC, RW, Putin think tanks that certainot Sep 2020 #88

Boycott their sponsors. Mr.Bill Sep 2020 #59

Nice! Bigredhunk Sep 2020 #33

Unfortunately A Lot Of People Don't Pay Attention COL Mustard Sep 2020 #39

yep a whole Party and cult base of chickens and llashram Sep 2020 #37

If You Sit This Election Out Because You Wanted Someone Else COL Mustard Sep 2020 #38

Obama should have done a recess appointment of Merrick Garland dlk Sep 2020 #40

The Senate was never in recess bpj62 Sep 2020 #42

I think there was a recess in May that year dlk Sep 2020 #56

There hasn't been a true "recess appointment" that was sustained by the courts since 2006 BumRushDaShow Sep 2020 #61

I see I'm late to the party, so I'll just note that there are those who'd rather quibble over... Hekate Sep 2020 #44

It's informative, I think. MineralMan Sep 2020 #55

tRumpism Lock him up. Sep 2020 #45

I will remember 'til the day I die, they have no grounds to stand on. I feel like the day after of LizBeth Sep 2020 #47

I mean, title is true but the rest is antifactual quakerboy Sep 2020 #58

That's interesting. I remember hearing that about the center once but never saw the figures. Autumn Sep 2020 #79

It is about survival now..................that's is what is at stake............... turbinetree Sep 2020 #63

Vote Blue to save our democracy. Joinfortmill Sep 2020 #64

And let's remember not to tell lefties to eff-off as if we don't need them as we've done in the past aikoaiko Sep 2020 #65

If we are forced to, our party can move to the middle in order to win and the left will have even Demsrule86 Sep 2020 #76

I'm sure you're strategy will work better this time. aikoaiko Sep 2020 #84

You won't have to worry COVID 19 will most likely yuiyoshida Sep 2020 #68

Too many people think one election solves everything. RandySF Sep 2020 #69

how quickly they forget about the kerry -edwrads campaign and the AllaN01Bear Sep 2020 #77

Bobby Boushay fescuerescue Sep 2020 #78

I understand this sentement BUT TheFarseer Sep 2020 #80

Your point is not made. MineralMan Sep 2020 #81

This is the only post-election article I could find quickly TheFarseer Sep 2020 #82

In the end, none of that matters. MineralMan Sep 2020 #85

Yes! Totally agree! nt TheFarseer Sep 2020 #86

Bill Clinton used a short term strategy. chriscan64 Sep 2020 #83