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MineralMan

(146,287 posts)
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 09:53 AM Sep 2020

The Chickens of 2010 and 2016 Have Come Home to Roost [View all]

In both of those years, far too many Democrats sat it out on election day and we lost ground in our effort to make our federal government more progressive. In 2010, Republicans got control of the House and increased their majority in the Senate. Worse, that was a Census year, and we lost a number of state legislatures, which helped Republicans further gerrymander some states.

For those who could not get excited about Hillary Clinton in 2016 and either did not vote or voted in vain for a third party candidate because they disliked Hillary, I hope a realization of the result of that is at the top of their minds today. I am not the only one who pointed out the extreme risk of a Trump presidency leading to an overwhelming majority in the Supreme Court. That is now about to occur.

In 2020, we should be working hard to re-elect Hillary Clinton for a second term. Instead, we are facing the distinct possibility that Donald J. Trump will manage to squeak back into office for four more disastrous years. If you're saying to yourself that such a thing cannot happen, I remind you once again of 2016.

Elections are about the realities of politics, not about the pure ideals of progressivism. We must elect public officials who will, in some way, advance our goals. If we do not, or cannot, progressivism will not be on the agenda. That is what we faced after 2016, and what we again face in 2020. No matter how pure your goals for government may be, if Republicans hold power, none of those goals will be realized.

Some claimed in 2016 that electing Trump would create a massive wave of progressivism in reaction. It did not. instead, it created a reinforcement of the regressive ideals of the religious right and arch-conservatism. The alternative to progressive purity is not the middle road. It is Republicanism and Donald J. Trump.

Can the United States be saved, even after losing the Supreme Court to the right wing? Maybe. Maybe not. That will depend on everyone who wishes for a progressive society to work up their enthusiasm at least enough to get Joe Biden elected as President and to establish a majority in the US Senate.

Is Biden the progressive ideal as a candidate for President? No. Of course he is not. However, the progressive candidates in the Democratic primary lost and Biden is the nominee. The voters spoke, and it is the voters who decide, not idealists. So, progressives, step up to the plate and work your asses off to elect Biden. Make up for 2010 and 2016 and give us all a chance. Please.

Why? Because Republicans are hungry for even more power, and because chickens who are late to roost and who are not productive of eggs will end up in the stew pot on Sunday. Don't become the main ingredient in the Republican's supper. And that is how it is, the day after the death of Ruth Bader Gingsburg.

Will this post be unpopular with some? Of course it will. I am beyond caring about popularity at this point. It is all about survival now.

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Why stop at 2016? I would go all the way back to 2000. Yavin4 Sep 2020 #1
I chose 2010 and 2016 because they are remembered better MineralMan Sep 2020 #3
2000 resonates more because of where we were then. Yavin4 Sep 2020 #9
Yes, but we need to be relevant to those who have no memory of 2020. MineralMan Sep 2020 #10
History matters. 2000 is only 20 years ago. Yavin4 Sep 2020 #20
2010 was awful in the House and in state legislatures... moose65 Sep 2020 #24
Exactly still_one Sep 2020 #14
No, let's take this logic back to something like Sherman A1 Sep 2020 #19
Wrong...there are senate seats being impacted by crappy Greens. It continues. Demsrule86 Sep 2020 #74
Oh, sure Sherman A1 Sep 2020 #89
And all the way forward to 2018 FBaggins Sep 2020 #34
I'd go back as far as 1980 and Reagan, who legitimized a lot of factions... AngryOldDem Sep 2020 #48
Absolutely 1994. plimsoll Sep 2020 #66
Yes, he did. AngryOldDem Sep 2020 #75
I agree with some of that rockfordfile Sep 2020 #2
I'm glad to hear it. MineralMan Sep 2020 #4
I hope a good number of people who didn't vote in 2016 or went 3rd party come to... The Genealogist Sep 2020 #5
If They Don't, Their Very Survival Is in Question. MineralMan Sep 2020 #6
I know that Cornell West will be voting for Biden/Harris, because he said so on Anderson/Cooper still_one Sep 2020 #15
I hope so. calimary Sep 2020 #60
Most of them are unapologetic, and some like Gray and Sirota are doing the same things they did in still_one Sep 2020 #62
Great post MM. Demsrule86 Sep 2020 #7
You're too kind. MineralMan Sep 2020 #8
Democrats controlled the Senate for 6 years and the House for 2 years of the Obama administration Klaralven Sep 2020 #11
I think most progressive voters only see it one way In It to Win It Sep 2020 #12
Post removed Post removed Sep 2020 #29
Bless your heart. BannonsLiver Sep 2020 #50
"In Pennsylvania, where public and private polls showed a competitive race similar to 2012, betsuni Sep 2020 #67
Republican Lite ? You mean Sanders and his pro gun stance ? Hillary and other Democrats have far JI7 Sep 2020 #70
+100000000000000000000 betsuni Sep 2020 #73
Ed Markey was Suddenly Good enough for a certain crowd that has attacked other Democrats JI7 Sep 2020 #71
I don't think your post will be unpopular because we've hashed out these issues to death. Firestorm49 Sep 2020 #13
Yes. ismnotwasm Sep 2020 #16
Angry, Frustrated, and Very, Very Worried. MineralMan Sep 2020 #27
Democrats and Progressives don't see politics as a war the way Republicans do bucolic_frolic Sep 2020 #17
K&R, but you need to re-word one sentence Martin Eden Sep 2020 #18
I was going to comment on that as well. I would make one minor change in the word order DFW Sep 2020 #72
It's all about TANGIBLE support now...donate or work for Democrats running against McCONnell, Graham BlancheSplanchnik Sep 2020 #21
Yes. That and just plain turn out and turn Trump out of office. MineralMan Sep 2020 #28
We HAVE to, yes. BlancheSplanchnik Sep 2020 #57
Far too many DUers were on the punish Democrats first plan back then IronLionZion Sep 2020 #22
But it is a shame Pres Obama had to nominate someone that conservative. Ligyron Sep 2020 #53
Righteous words brother. Pepsidog Sep 2020 #23
Yes. Every word hits the mark. NoRoadUntravelled Sep 2020 #25
I am a progressive PatSeg Sep 2020 #26
For almost four years, I've been imagining where we'd be with MineralMan Sep 2020 #30
Not just wasted, PatSeg Sep 2020 #41
democrats need offense, not just GOTV and fundraising - destroy RW talk radio, it's ready certainot Sep 2020 #31
How do you suggest we do that? I'm all ears. MineralMan Sep 2020 #32
That's the question that is always asked. TwilightZone Sep 2020 #35
That's because there is no answer. Without giving up the First Amendment, MineralMan Sep 2020 #36
see comment below. you would have a point if rw radio was not a 95% monopoly that certainot Sep 2020 #49
see below. aside from that, dems don't even poll for rw radio. start with that, identify certainot Sep 2020 #46
all it would take is one major athlete to publicize the absurdity of their team's broadcasts certainot Sep 2020 #43
how many radio advertisers will support COVID denial for 2 months, like all limbaugh stations certainot Sep 2020 #51
OK, then. You do it. MineralMan Sep 2020 #52
dem and progressive leadership and media leaders/pundits etc have completely failed certainot Sep 2020 #54
Limbaugh is only the tip of the boil,not the infection itself. Look at who owns local TV stations... Hekate Sep 2020 #87
limbo basically leads messaging on 1500 radio stations for the COC, RW, Putin think tanks that certainot Sep 2020 #88
Boycott their sponsors. Mr.Bill Sep 2020 #59
Nice! Bigredhunk Sep 2020 #33
Unfortunately A Lot Of People Don't Pay Attention COL Mustard Sep 2020 #39
yep a whole Party and cult base of chickens and llashram Sep 2020 #37
If You Sit This Election Out Because You Wanted Someone Else COL Mustard Sep 2020 #38
Obama should have done a recess appointment of Merrick Garland dlk Sep 2020 #40
The Senate was never in recess bpj62 Sep 2020 #42
I think there was a recess in May that year dlk Sep 2020 #56
There hasn't been a true "recess appointment" that was sustained by the courts since 2006 BumRushDaShow Sep 2020 #61
I see I'm late to the party, so I'll just note that there are those who'd rather quibble over... Hekate Sep 2020 #44
It's informative, I think. MineralMan Sep 2020 #55
tRumpism Lock him up. Sep 2020 #45
I will remember 'til the day I die, they have no grounds to stand on. I feel like the day after of LizBeth Sep 2020 #47
I mean, title is true but the rest is antifactual quakerboy Sep 2020 #58
That's interesting. I remember hearing that about the center once but never saw the figures. Autumn Sep 2020 #79
It is about survival now..................that's is what is at stake............... turbinetree Sep 2020 #63
Vote Blue to save our democracy. Joinfortmill Sep 2020 #64
And let's remember not to tell lefties to eff-off as if we don't need them as we've done in the past aikoaiko Sep 2020 #65
If we are forced to, our party can move to the middle in order to win and the left will have even Demsrule86 Sep 2020 #76
I'm sure you're strategy will work better this time. aikoaiko Sep 2020 #84
You won't have to worry COVID 19 will most likely yuiyoshida Sep 2020 #68
Too many people think one election solves everything. RandySF Sep 2020 #69
how quickly they forget about the kerry -edwrads campaign and the AllaN01Bear Sep 2020 #77
Bobby Boushay fescuerescue Sep 2020 #78
I understand this sentement BUT TheFarseer Sep 2020 #80
Your point is not made. MineralMan Sep 2020 #81
This is the only post-election article I could find quickly TheFarseer Sep 2020 #82
In the end, none of that matters. MineralMan Sep 2020 #85
Yes! Totally agree! nt TheFarseer Sep 2020 #86
Bill Clinton used a short term strategy. chriscan64 Sep 2020 #83
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