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Crunchy Frog

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22. I'm always very happy to see Mike Steele speak out, and

Thu Sep 17, 2020, 05:22 PM

Sep 2020

as much as I've loathed Bill Kristol in the past, and very likely in the future, I think he's doing an outstanding job with RVAT.

Mike Steele was on fire last night on the 11th Hour. We need as many hands on deck as possible right now IMO.

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Jennifer Rubin: Why I dropped 'conservative' from my Twitter profile [View all] brooklynite Sep 2020 OP

I wonder how many who made a living off of "conservatism" might actually be re-thinking lagomorph777 Sep 2020 #1

conservatism to me is more of an unrealistic, unreachable ideal; now that the GOP is officially dead onetexan Sep 2020 #5

Too few of them. Too many are pretending it went off the rails recently... JHB Sep 2020 #27

+1000! "Very few are willing to admit they were somebody else's useful idiot." n/t Kind of Blue Sep 2020 #47

Mississippi born Stuart Stevens has abandoned it totally, looks like Rubin has followed his lead. Blue_true Sep 2020 #36

From what I know of Stuart Stevens, he is absolutely qualified yonder Sep 2020 #40

I kinda feel bad for her qazplm135 Sep 2020 #2

I don't think that is what she's saying, unfortunately. yardwork Sep 2020 #45

I don't think she's rejecting her beliefs qazplm135 Sep 2020 #46

This didn't just happen. Her "movement" hasn't been moving in the direction she thought... Beartracks Sep 2020 #50

I was not commenting on whether her view qazplm135 Sep 2020 #51

Hey, sorry, I was meaning to Reply to the OP, forgot I was still viewing your post. Beartracks Sep 2020 #53

I still await a truly good conservative idea. It is just all a sham. NRaleighLiberal Sep 2020 #3

If you divorce the word "conservative" from the assholes who have been calling... Silent3 Sep 2020 #7

personal responsibility in the US means I got mine, fuck you, go look for some bootstraps on yer own Celerity Sep 2020 #19

The phrase "personal responsibility" doesn't have to have that particular coded meaning... Silent3 Sep 2020 #28

It was long ago weaponised in the US to the point it is no longer a useful concept there. nt Celerity Sep 2020 #29

Of course it's a useful concept. Silent3 Sep 2020 #30

I disagree. Personal Responsibility as an idea Tommymac Sep 2020 #61

"We are an inherently a selfish society", so... what? Give up on talking about it? Silent3 Sep 2020 #64

Hide from a fact and I would be just like HIM. Tommymac Sep 2020 #65

I think you failed to notice the quote marks. Silent3 Sep 2020 #66

Rachael Maddow calls them "small c conservatives" Mopar151 Sep 2020 #49

They have always been about hatred and resentment of something. Blue_true Sep 2020 #37

that's my view. NRaleighLiberal Sep 2020 #38

They had it, to some extent in Lincoln and Grant. Blue_true Sep 2020 #44

Glad enough to see it gratuitous Sep 2020 #4

Agreed. zentrum Sep 2020 #18

still can't bring themselves to say fascist... Thomas Hurt Sep 2020 #6

Fuck her.. AZ8theist Sep 2020 #8

Second that sarge43 Sep 2020 #17

Jennifer Rubin has always spoke out against Trump. It didn't take her 4 yrs to figure it out tulipsandroses Sep 2020 #24

She is still a huge fangirl of the underlying memes and modes of government that led to Trump. Celerity Sep 2020 #34

Oh, how soon we forget about the GWBush boot licking by Rubin...... AZ8theist Sep 2020 #35

She is an adherent of the George Will philosophy of small government. Blue_true Sep 2020 #42

She knew it was the end of Reagan/Bush era Rethugs. RhodeIslandOne Sep 2020 #48

And how about Bush? quakerboy Sep 2020 #58

+1000 Celerity Sep 2020 #20

You beat me to it ... aggiesal Sep 2020 #23

I'm glad to see this. "Conservative" no longer means any of the things "conservatives" used to ... Hekate Sep 2020 #9

Note that she doesn't really believe in liberal social programs either AFAIK andym Sep 2020 #10

She just wants Mitt or John Kasich RhodeIslandOne Sep 2020 #13

Another casualty resulting from #GOPSurrender BadGimp Sep 2020 #11

I remember how she thought Mitt Romney was going to be an awesome President RhodeIslandOne Sep 2020 #12

I'm always very happy to see Mike Steele speak out, and Crunchy Frog Sep 2020 #22

He really was (on fire). That's moonscape Sep 2020 #26

I remember chiding her in an email a few years ago Dem2 Sep 2020 #14

The USA should probably have 4 parties (not counting Libertarian and Green) LiberalLovinLug Sep 2020 #15

A lack of proportional representation will be one of the long wave constitutional flaws that does Celerity Sep 2020 #21

Good points LiberalLovinLug Sep 2020 #32

Is it poorly written, MoonchildCA Sep 2020 #52

both Celerity Sep 2020 #55

One thought Roy Rolling Sep 2020 #16

Jennifer, you a big fan of Saint Reagan? hibbing Sep 2020 #25

KR.. All HANDS on DECK! Cha Sep 2020 #31

Translation: Republicans aren't paying me anymore Sympthsical Sep 2020 #33

She had better not show this to Richard Viguerie DFW Sep 2020 #39

She's only sore because she's no longer one of the party insiders Raine Sep 2020 #41

tRumpublicans, republicans, conservatives, whatever! warmfeet Sep 2020 #43

Screw her StrictlyRockers Sep 2020 #54

Can y'all ever really be an Ex... czarjak Sep 2020 #56

There hasnt been a conservative movement in the country in my lifetime quakerboy Sep 2020 #57

Conservatism has been a fraud for more than two centuries. Grins Sep 2020 #59

Dear Jennifer: Thank you for finally noticing what se've seen for many years. Warpy Sep 2020 #60

"Conservative" defined, then and now Zambero Sep 2020 #62

conservative somehow morphed into right wing extremists SleeplessinSoCal Sep 2020 #63