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In reply to the discussion: J.K. Rowling, B.Weiss & N. Chomsky Among Dozens Sign Open Letter Calling for End to Cancel Culture [View all]Sophia_Of_PlanetX
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The idea that trans women are "taking away" the term woman is ludicrous. They are women, and being a woman isn't a zero-sum thing where trans women being women means cis-women are less of a woman. That doesn't make any sense. They are trans women.
Obsession with chromosomes is becoming almost cult-like. Nobody sees your chromosomes, and they should not define a person. I see this sort of absolutism as being no different from race realism, where white supremacists treat genes that make a person black as somehow defining their entire existence. Its gross and scientifically incorrect.
For #1, what I was getting at is, I'm tired of these reactionary anecdotes that mostly circulate in right-wing media. The problem is, the amount of time someone is on HRT is important, as are the actual changes (which may vary). Im trying to find studies about trans women who have had T levels in female ranges for > 2 years.
#2 - Always. Are you familiar with the effects of testosterone? It helps people build and maintain muscle, and without it, they cannot. I would assume so, but I'm not sure if there's a study out there saying exactly how much muscle they lose. This is hard, because it also varies from woman to woman.
A study about hand-grip strength between cis-women and cis-men isn't relevant. I'm not really going to argue trans women don't have an advantage, because, as I said before, I don't really believe that. However, studies between cis-people really aren't important here, since we already know those things.
#6 - You are putting the cart before the horse here. Gender dysphoria does cause multiple mental disorders, such as depression. The fact that having a female brain and male body, or vice-versa can cause mental health issues isnt exactly surprising.
Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria (ROGD) is a fake, pseudo-medicalese term invented by the right-wing news circles and reactionaries. No legitimate doctor will ever honor that crap. Also, the doctor in the article says we should strictly enforce kids gender assigned at birth in a form of conversion therapy by ripping toys out of their hands and replacing them with correct toys. Ew... Why would anyone who is gender critical want this?
Some kids will realize that they aren't trans, because they aren't. Others who are trans will be repressed and shamed by their parents so badly that their depression will worsen, which can sometimes look the same as being cured. All this does is teach kids that they should be ashamed of themselves and hide who they are. This sort of shaming is the same repression felt by those who are LGB+.
I'm not really sure what the answer is. How do we determine which kids are really trans and which aren't? Perhaps we need to work on better ways to block puberty that don't have lasting side-effects. This would allow for a choice later in life and give kids time to figure themselves out.
I do urge anyone who calls themselves gender critical to use introspection to determine if they actually are what they call themselves. For any one who is, do you have a problem with trans people? If so, why? Is it because you feel people with XY chromosomes should look / dress / act a certain way? Is it because your identification as a woman is special to you, and someone adapting your identity without XX chromosomes feels like an attack on it? Are you really gender critical if youre trying to impose gendered expectations on others?
If a cis-man acted traditionally feminine, wore a dress, spoke with a high, feminine voice, had their nails painted, had a traditionally female name, wore makeup, had earrings, and had long hair, would this invoke a feeling of disgust? If so, are you really gender critical? I think these are important thoughts for anyone who is GC. Are you driven by true gender abolition, or, are you driven by disgust and bigotry?