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Bernardo de La Paz

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5. That is not to deny the OPost figure, is it. There are two death rates.
Sat Jul 4, 2020, 06:40 PM
Jul 2020

One is per detected cases. That what is usually meant when death rate is discussed.

The other is your figure which is per actual cases. It is the more desirable figure to know but at this point it is inscrutable. The ratio of true cases to known cases varies from time to time and from place to place. It is only estimable after the fact and even then will have bounds of uncertainty around it.

The problem is that the per-actual adds another layer of uncertainty onto the detected figure (which has uncertainty) which is based on an already clouded official death count. A triple layer or triple cloud of uncertainty makes the final figure effectively meaningless.

US Coronavirus deaths per day... [View all] Amy-Strange Jul 2020 OP
the overall death rate is no where near 4.63% in reality, millions have had it and were never tested Celerity Jul 2020 #1
Didn't CDC Say 8x, About A Week Ago? ProfessorGAC Jul 2020 #2
Who are they checking out anyway? Amy-Strange Jul 2020 #4
Maybe Extrapolation? ProfessorGAC Jul 2020 #9
I'll bet a lot of the death rate disinformation is... Amy-Strange Jul 2020 #12
Probable ProfessorGAC Jul 2020 #14
Around these parts, OilemFirchen Jul 2020 #20
No testing, no knowledge Nululu Jul 2020 #23
if there have been 10 million total cases, the actual lethality is around 1.3% Celerity Jul 2020 #6
Definitely worth knowing, but... Amy-Strange Jul 2020 #10
You're probably right, but... Amy-Strange Jul 2020 #3
That is not to deny the OPost figure, is it. There are two death rates. Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2020 #5
Well said, and... Amy-Strange Jul 2020 #8
Plus, some people are also saying that the death count is actually higher Amy-Strange Jul 2020 #7
10x normal number dying at home in NY at height of pandemic Nululu Jul 2020 #13
Exactly Amy-Strange Jul 2020 #15
The OP is reporting the confirmed cases and the confirmed deaths csziggy Jul 2020 #16
the non reported cases are at a vastly higher rate than the non attributed deaths nt Celerity Jul 2020 #18
Yes, but since they are unreported they cannot be quantified nt csziggy Jul 2020 #19
doesn't matter, the lethality rate is nowhere near 5% is is simply wrong to push that line Celerity Jul 2020 #21
Look at the excess death rate Nululu Jul 2020 #24
But when we say "flu has a 0.01% fatality rate" that means confirmed cases and confirmed deaths Recursion Jul 2020 #25
Sorry, I am not playing these semantic games. Since I posted this I have seen over 10 doctors say Celerity Jul 2020 #26
Regardless of the actually death rate, here are some more scary things to consider... Amy-Strange Jul 2020 #11
This thing hangs on for a long time Bettie Jul 2020 #17
Right !! The young might be dying slower now ... Also we know more people got it in NY than were tes uponit7771 Jul 2020 #22
Kick Amy-Strange Jul 2020 #27
#1 OSHA complaint is people refusing to wear masks Nululu Jul 2020 #28
It is like a death cult, huh? n/t Amy-Strange Jul 2020 #29
Might as well play Russian Roulette Nululu Jul 2020 #30
I think we should cram them all into one room, and... Amy-Strange Jul 2020 #31
Unfortunately they'll kill others Nululu Jul 2020 #32
Not if we don't let them out, and... Amy-Strange Jul 2020 #33
Can't quite go there yet. Nululu Jul 2020 #34
I'm not either, but... Amy-Strange Jul 2020 #35
Difference is they'll be released and pay a fine Nululu Jul 2020 #36
Charge them with attempted Manslaughter n/t Amy-Strange Jul 2020 #37
Introducing TIME's One-Stop Coronavirus Dashboard Amy-Strange Jul 2020 #38
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