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jaxexpat

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13. As Paul, quoting Psalms, said to the Romans, "there is no righteous man, not even one".

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Sat Jul 4, 2020, 11:38 AM

Jul 2020

Precludes imbuement of saintliness on any fathers, founding or otherwise. One of the gates to wisdom or something.

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Their legacy today: All Lives Matter ancianita Jul 2020 #1

I always watch 1776 on July 4 Freddie Jul 2020 #2

And yet they were the best of their time -- disenfranchised slaves, women, and all. ancianita Jul 2020 #5

Jefferson missed Martha greatly, and to deal with his grief... NNadir Jul 2020 #9

looking back on history thru modern eyes is not accurate or deserving to be done beachbumbob Jul 2020 #3

Modern eyes see the inaccuracy of history and change it ancianita Jul 2020 #4

If those coming behind them left things as they did, where... brush Jul 2020 #34

Please adjust your picture for New England representatives bucolic_frolic Jul 2020 #6

Absolutely. My Maine ancestors live on Penobscot land. They've made a peace. How just, I don't know. ancianita Jul 2020 #10

As Paul, quoting Psalms, said to the Romans, "there is no righteous man, not even one". jaxexpat Jul 2020 #13

Ah...but there were slaves in Connecticut... Demsrule86 Jul 2020 #42

Also, many in the NE were involved in the slave trade, even if they did not own any themselves. Coventina Jul 2020 #44

There were also slaves in Massachusetts - until the state constitution went into effect csziggy Jul 2020 #47

There is an important caveat about one of those red dots, however. NNadir Jul 2020 #7

And thank you for your post, particularly the link. I will watch this and spread it around. ancianita Jul 2020 #11

Very Important Post Kid Berwyn Jul 2020 #12

The Union won the war but the traitors won the peace Ponietz Jul 2020 #15

IMO trump is indeed karma. brush Jul 2020 #35

I just watched Robinson. You're onto something with the heuristic malpractice idea. ancianita Jul 2020 #41

I'm very glad you watched it. It is true that European Imperialism was very much... NNadir Jul 2020 #46

Thank you so much. I've learned a lot from you the last few days. ancianita Jul 2020 #48

I watched Hamilton last night, gab13by13 Jul 2020 #8

Totally Agree With the Premise Roy Rolling Jul 2020 #14

And we can operate on two premises at the same time. Smart democracies do that. ancianita Jul 2020 #17

Maybe It's like Covid 19 testing BannonsLiver Jul 2020 #40

And countless white soldiers fought and died so African Americans could be free. HotTeaBag Jul 2020 #16

Yes. Yet we still fight the white history revisionists who still think only in zero sum terms. ancianita Jul 2020 #19

What? HotTeaBag Jul 2020 #20

How so? They fought so that slavery would end. It did, but it's taken on new forms of psychological ancianita Jul 2020 #24

Ah, I misunderstood. HotTeaBag Jul 2020 #25

While we at discussing slavery..... Historic NY Jul 2020 #18

You're right. It's been a global problem of history. Still is. How other nations ancianita Jul 2020 #22

Because it didn't start here in 1619 doesn't make it any less evil... brush Jul 2020 #36

As a black man, I look past this for their incredible accomplishments Polybius Jul 2020 #21

I hear you. Yet the seeds were sown, innocently or not. I say not. ancianita Jul 2020 #23

Did they sow seeds or reap the harvest? I would like to put forth a differing viewpoint. cayugafalls Jul 2020 #29

Thank you for your thoughtful post. ancianita Jul 2020 #32

But it was "frowned upon" GarColga Jul 2020 #27

It was frowned upon by many but not most Polybius Jul 2020 #33

They knew it was evil. See post 34. brush Jul 2020 #38

Many of them wanted to abolish slavery, but couldn't because of Southern conservatives... dsharp88 Jul 2020 #26

True. That "good fight" has seen several iterations over 200 years, all of them violent. ancianita Jul 2020 #31

One thing they did right. They made it so the Constitution could be amended. demigoddess Jul 2020 #28

+1000, that is the seeds they sowed. cayugafalls Jul 2020 #30

So true, maybe the most important thing. brush Jul 2020 #39

White Male Landowners 100% JustFiveMoreMinutes Jul 2020 #37

100% is always a setup. ancianita Jul 2020 #45

Crickets...You can see above that not all the signers have red dots, though. Anyway, I looked into ancianita Jul 2020 #49

K&R Jamaal510 Jul 2020 #43