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WhiskeyGrinder

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29. The Electoral College was constructed to give more power to white southerners, out of proportion
Thu Jun 25, 2020, 03:29 PM
Jun 2020

to their states' populations. As Madison himself said:

There was one difficulty however of a serious nature attending an immediate choice by the people. The right of suffrage was much more diffusive in the Northern than the Southern States; and the latter could have no influence in the election on the score of the Negroes. The substitution of electors obviated this difficulty and seemed on the whole to be liable to fewest objections.


A racist policy, the 3/5 Compromise, was already in place to apportion seats in Congress, so they might as well apply it to the EC, as well.

Even now, the system hurts Black voters:


https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/11/electoral-college-racist-origins/601918/
Despite black voting patterns to the contrary, five of the six states whose populations are 25 percent or more black have been reliably red in recent presidential elections. Three of those states have not voted for a Democrat in more than four decades. Under the Electoral College, black votes are submerged. It’s the precise reason for the success of the southern strategy. It’s precisely how, as Buckley might say, the South has prevailed.
Ka ching Eliot Rosewater Jun 2020 #1
PERFECT!! leftieNanner Jun 2020 #2
This one deserves wide circulation. Dead-bang perfect. (nt) Paladin Jun 2020 #3
Excellent observation! sop Jun 2020 #4
If only we could make some kind of deal with the red states BannonsLiver Jun 2020 #5
Now, *that* is the best one to get rid of!1 UTUSN Jun 2020 #6
MOVE TO #1 ON THE LIST !!! fierywoman Jun 2020 #7
Bazinga! brush Jun 2020 #8
Cue it up. Looooong overdue. Popular vote, paper trail, scanners that can't be hacked. Evolve Dammit Jun 2020 #9
14th amendment says we can take away electoral votes from some racially oppressive states IronLionZion Jun 2020 #10
This needs to be its own OP! geardaddy Jun 2020 #22
the 14th Amendment unfortunately also created a MASSIVE disenfranchisement tool Celerity Jun 2020 #37
That's why they like to incarcerate people who look like Democrats IronLionZion Jun 2020 #41
Absolutely! niyad Jun 2020 #11
K&R! KPN Jun 2020 #12
Thank you! CountMyVote4Reality Jun 2020 #13
Yes! It's long past time to get rid of the electoral college. crickets Jun 2020 #14
Your wording of question is excellent bobbieinok Jun 2020 #15
When Joe's in the WH & we take the Senate, they'll make sure to kill it KS Toronado Jun 2020 #16
I doubt very much Biden would support such an effort. Kaleva Jun 2020 #24
It will require a constitutional amendment which can drag on for years. nt yellowdogintexas Jun 2020 #33
I sooooooooooooo want to get rid of the Upthevibe Jun 2020 #17
x1000 Capt. America Jun 2020 #44
The EC isn't a monument to slavery FBaggins Jun 2020 #18
Close: The EC was not the compromise. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2020 #21
We got rid of that monument over a century and a half ago FBaggins Jun 2020 #26
The Electoral College was constructed to give more power to white southerners, out of proportion WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2020 #29
That once again confuses the two "compromises" FBaggins Jun 2020 #31
There have been attempts to abolish the EC IronLionZion Jun 2020 #28
Which is basically what I said FBaggins Jun 2020 #30
If we didn't have that, Putin would have never succeeded. C Moon Jun 2020 #19
NAILED IT! LymphocyteLover Jun 2020 #20
yep, it's a slave era holdover llashram Jun 2020 #23
Boom! lagomorph777 Jun 2020 #25
It doesn't take a constitutional amendment customerserviceguy Jun 2020 #27
Therein Lies The Problem ProfessorGAC Jun 2020 #40
It's not a bug, it's a feature customerserviceguy Jun 2020 #43
Getting rid of monuments to slave owners, you say? Straw Man Jun 2020 #32
NO F*****G S**T!!!! Doreen Jun 2020 #34
BOOM! calimary Jun 2020 #35
Good one! Poiuyt Jun 2020 #36
I wish I'd said that. jaxexpat Jun 2020 #38
Let us know when you have 3/5 of the States in agreement. brooklynite Jun 2020 #39
Adherence to Inertia caused by Structural Bindings will bring down a Nation. MarcA Jun 2020 #42
Well... as long as there is a "list"... I have a suggestion Josiesdad Jun 2020 #45
Brilliant point. zentrum Jun 2020 #46
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