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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
118. Your argument is obscene.
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 05:54 PM
Jun 2020

There is no way to compare a teenaged girl whose politics changed as soon as she became independent to a woman who as little as two years ago was advocating for drastic alterations of SS and Medicare.

Your claim about Warren is also a cad, Warren became a comitted liberal twenty years ago after doing research on bankruptcies and seeing that the people trapped in them were not deadbeats.

If you want to keep defending MCC, then name ten core democratic principles that she is solid on.

If she wins the primary she boosts our numbers. SlogginThroughIt Jun 2020 #1
By replacing aoc? How does replacing a staunch lefty with a dino help us? unblock Jun 2020 #5
Read. Go back and read it again. SlogginThroughIt Jun 2020 #152
*if* she wins the primary *then* she'd be better on the margins than a republican unblock Jun 2020 #155
Some people just don't like AOC's tactics. SlogginThroughIt Jun 2020 #157
Let's not get ahead of ourselves. Aoc is pretty popular in a solidly democratic district unblock Jun 2020 #160
I absolutely agree that she is best for us. SlogginThroughIt Jun 2020 #161
A Democrat already hold the seat she is running for. How does a Democrat in name only Autumn Jun 2020 #7
+100000 Celerity Jun 2020 #72
She would be more of a boost to Republicans IMO. nt Autumn Jun 2020 #73
Correct. nt Blue_true Jun 2020 #111
No she wouldn't in terms of holding a majority she would not. SlogginThroughIt Jun 2020 #153
Also I want to make it clear. I do NOT support her at all. SlogginThroughIt Jun 2020 #154
AOC is a Democrat. We already hold the majority with AOC remaining in that seat. Autumn Jun 2020 #159
Read what I wrote again. SlogginThroughIt Jun 2020 #151
No, she wouldn't necessarily boost our numbers regarding votes. She could still vote with the GOP. Towlie Jun 2020 #56
I wonder if she'd vote against any sort of Coronavirus Relief Package... NurseJackie Jun 2020 #76
What about voting to abolish Medicare and social security? PTWB Jun 2020 #86
Haaaaa! The whatabout game! NurseJackie Jun 2020 #88
Oh I'm sorry, I took you for someone who was interested in intellectual discussion. PTWB Jun 2020 #97
Unlikely she'd be brave enough to make such a courageous and correct stand melman Jun 2020 #90
Ha! NurseJackie Jun 2020 #91
It was melman Jun 2020 #92
Ha! NurseJackie Jun 2020 #94
Another delightful gif melman Jun 2020 #96
I know. NurseJackie Jun 2020 #99
Oh you just never run out of them melman Jun 2020 #100
I know. NurseJackie Jun 2020 #102
Another gem melman Jun 2020 #103
I love how easily they entertain. NurseJackie Jun 2020 #104
They just get better and better melman Jun 2020 #105
Yes she would. SlogginThroughIt Jun 2020 #150
The seat is already held by a lifelong Dem Bettie Jun 2020 #115
Right. SlogginThroughIt Jun 2020 #149
She doesn't boost anything but the base count Bettie Jun 2020 #156
And that's true. We have seen that with other Dino's Re: Manchin SlogginThroughIt Jun 2020 #158
If someone switches parties, the question is why. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2020 #2
Sounds like she was hand picked to take marlakay Jun 2020 #3
What's the point of asking that question? If that question were asked of supporters..... George II Jun 2020 #4
Good point. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2020 #9
What concerns me is that many people refer to the incumbent as a "woman of color", as though.... George II Jun 2020 #14
Why does that concern you? JonLP24 Jun 2020 #38
What I said, and will now using different words, is people are using her "WOC" status.... George II Jun 2020 #48
Khan supports Yang's UBI JonLP24 Jun 2020 #49
Isn't white a color, too? demosincebirth Jun 2020 #57
Actually in physics neither black nor white are considered colors. George II Jun 2020 #65
Well, I guess we we got this color crap all wrong. demosincebirth Jun 2020 #79
I think it's different TheFarseer Jun 2020 #64
I'm assuming it is to point out the blatant racism and misogynistic views PTWB Jun 2020 #87
Interesting. The first three are white men, the fourth a WOC. How do "blatant racism and... George II Jun 2020 #89
The fact that you don't see how they come into play should tell you all you need to know. PTWB Jun 2020 #95
No it shouldn't. If anything it is the opposite of blatant racism and misogyny... George II Jun 2020 #106
Answer the questions posed in the OP and we will find out. PTWB Jun 2020 #108
When it becomes a fact yes, you will. This is now at least five threads..... George II Jun 2020 #121
Don't flatter yourself. PTWB Jun 2020 #126
Your last sentence isn't true at all, and isn't even relevant to this. You've been badgering me.... George II Jun 2020 #130
Do you know what thread you're in? PTWB Jun 2020 #131
The question being asked is: "So why are so many supporting her?", not yours. George II Jun 2020 #132
"For anyone else late to the party..." George II Jun 2020 #135
Imagine joining a thread where the premise is PTWB Jun 2020 #136
No sir, or madam, the premise is asking why people support MCC. George II Jun 2020 #137
You read it here first, folks! PTWB Jun 2020 #138
No. Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2020 #6
Which local Democratic politician seems as stupid as Trump? JonLP24 Jun 2020 #39
I think AOC is very smart. Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2020 #74
You are dead-on. Jirel Jun 2020 #8
There's a local guy running for a state Dem party position. Doremus Jun 2020 #52
Elizabeth Warren was a registered Republican until she was 47, so were many other octoberlib Jun 2020 #10
You are right and Warren was the first I thought of. She is Dem because she believes in Democratic LizBeth Jun 2020 #15
Hell, lets not forget where she moved from. Lancero Jun 2020 #24
This is what this is sounding like. I agree. I have a problem with some of AOC stances, and her LizBeth Jun 2020 #29
Elizabeth Warren switched 20 yrs ago - MCC recently switched womanofthehills Jun 2020 #70
Around here, it's the rule zipplewrath Jun 2020 #11
Elizabeth Warren, Hillary Clinton, Charlie Crist... brooklynite Jun 2020 #12
Hillary Clinton was never a registered republican. George II Jun 2020 #16
Whether registered or not, she was a supporter of Barry Goldwater in her youth... brooklynite Jun 2020 #20
You seem to harbor so much animus toward AOC. Blue_true Jun 2020 #116
well you lost that slim hope too. Voltaire2 Jun 2020 #166
What hope did I have? brooklynite Jun 2020 #167
As it turns out, none. Voltaire2 Jun 2020 #168
What did Caruso-Cabrera say about Medicare, social security, and "less government" in her campaign? muriel_volestrangler Jun 2020 #173
Yes, she was...and the head of the Young Republicans at her college. nt Baltimike Jun 2020 #53
She worked for/with the republican party when she was a teenager (and maybe at 20?) but... George II Jun 2020 #66
People like to use her being a Goldwater Girl against Hillary. Blue_true Jun 2020 #113
People haev got to let the HRC one go. She picked up her father's politics. Once old enough to own LizBeth Jun 2020 #17
But that's my point... brooklynite Jun 2020 #23
And my point is you can hardly claim a child a party when as an adult they choose their party. LizBeth Jun 2020 #28
Clinton was 17 when Goldwater ran; she wasn't a "child". brooklynite Jun 2020 #33
And she was not an adult out of home and its influence. This is a silly argument and you want to LizBeth Jun 2020 #41
Yes, we all had our shit together while still in high school. not_the_one Jun 2020 #45
I could hold my own in a discussion on Watergate with any adult when I was 15.... brooklynite Jun 2020 #58
You mean you didn't have your shit together at 17? Blue_true Jun 2020 #123
She became a Democrat when she was asked to give a speech endorsing the Viet Nam War... Baltimike Jun 2020 #54
I'm not a huge HRC fan but TheFarseer Jun 2020 #67
You are really getting desperate in your argument. Blue_true Jun 2020 #122
This message was self-deleted by its author ehrnst Jun 2020 #165
I don't believe Hillary or Liz ever advocated privatizing SS and cutting Medicare. Autumn Jun 2020 #71
Your argument is obscene. Blue_true Jun 2020 #118
If someone said "The business model, if you will, of the Democratic Party for the last 15 years betsuni Jun 2020 #13
+1 sheshe2 Jun 2020 #18
Good point. LizBeth Jun 2020 #19
And... NurseJackie Jun 2020 #27
+1,000,000 DenverJared Jun 2020 #31
There it is! It's not complicated. R B Garr Jun 2020 #32
When Centrists Sounded Like Bernie JonLP24 Jun 2020 #44
If those things were stated in reference to us having not been bold enough Blue_true Jun 2020 #125
Yeah, I am with you...I have never felt fully comfy with AOC because it seeems Eliot Rosewater Jun 2020 #142
AOC is rough around the edges and she intervenes in too many Blue_true Jun 2020 #146
No, doesnt appear MCC is that at all. Eliot Rosewater Jun 2020 #147
For some, it's all about the uniform. jalan48 Jun 2020 #21
I definitely don't support her. marmar Jun 2020 #22
At the end of today, Ruben Diaz, Sr is far more likely to become a Member of Congress... brooklynite Jun 2020 #25
I criticized him too JonLP24 Jun 2020 #46
This post serves no good purpose. NurseJackie Jun 2020 #26
False equivalence DenverJared Jun 2020 #30
Recommended. H2O Man Jun 2020 #34
Nonsensical question. Ms. Toad Jun 2020 #35
It's not a nonsensical question melman Jun 2020 #42
The AOC stalker gang. Lol Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2020 #55
Making decision about whether to support a specific person Ms. Toad Jun 2020 #81
Okay melman Jun 2020 #82
A significant portion of my education is directly or indirectly in logic. Ms. Toad Jun 2020 #139
I didn't say you didn't get it melman Jun 2020 #140
Your relevancy problem is including "If you wouldn't support these awful people." Ms. Toad Jun 2020 #141
If my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle...nt SidDithers Jun 2020 #36
I don't support crazy people!!! LeftInTX Jun 2020 #37
She is not crazy JonLP24 Jun 2020 #47
Trump is crazy...original post asked if we would support Trump if he switched to Democratic LeftInTX Jun 2020 #69
AOC is very idealistic. Blue_true Jun 2020 #129
Hell no to supporting Trump, Graham, Sessions, and McConnell. They could become registered Dems, Autumn Jun 2020 #40
No melman Jun 2020 #43
No Polybius Jun 2020 #50
Not just NO but HELL!!! NO!!!! yellowdogintexas Jun 2020 #51
That's a good question. I think she's a arthritisR_US Jun 2020 #59
I would not support them in a primary but would if they became the nominee. Kaleva Jun 2020 #60
I would just not speak of her on DU Marrah_Goodman Jun 2020 #62
The contest between the two is irrelevant to me. Kaleva Jun 2020 #68
Because the ones that do have a visceral hate for AOC. Marrah_Goodman Jun 2020 #61
Am I to understand that the ONLY reason one would vote against AOC is "visceral hate"? brooklynite Jun 2020 #75
The only reason a progressive would vote for a Dino like her, yes, In my opinion. Marrah_Goodman Jun 2020 #78
Other than being anti-AOC, what are her positions? progressoid Jun 2020 #63
If Bernie Sanders were to become a registered Democrat, would you support him? brooklynite Jun 2020 #77
Kind of seems like you are deliberately missing the point here melman Jun 2020 #80
Yes judge each by their merits Dem4Life1102 Jun 2020 #83
*snort* ismnotwasm Jun 2020 #84
Bernie has never been a Republican, registered or otherwise. Nor has he ever advocated doing away Autumn Jun 2020 #85
Of course he's not a Republican... NurseJackie Jun 2020 #93
Yes he is a socialist. And a damn fine consistent one at that. You will never hear him advocating Autumn Jun 2020 #98
Consistency isn't always a virtue. NurseJackie Jun 2020 #101
It all depends on what one is constant about. nt Autumn Jun 2020 #109
Thank you for agreeing with me. I appreciate your honesty. NurseJackie Jun 2020 #112
That word "agreeing" you accuse me of doing? Autumn Jun 2020 #114
And thanks again for helping to prove my point. NurseJackie Jun 2020 #117
jackie jackie Autumn Jun 2020 #119
Again, I thank you! NurseJackie Jun 2020 #127
Holy shit Did I just read the words "He's a Socialist"???? ismnotwasm Jun 2020 #133
You didn't read it anywhere in the post you're replying to... NurseJackie Jun 2020 #134
Consistency about not cutting Democratic signature programs of SS and Medicare is ALWAYS a virtue. SMC22307 Jun 2020 #148
Consistency... ehrnst Jun 2020 #164
If you call cuts "adjustments..." then it's totally different, I guess. ehrnst Jun 2020 #163
So the Democratic Party is big enough for the most extreme right wing pro-capitalists... Humanist_Activist Jun 2020 #169
Oh, brother. NurseJackie Jun 2020 #170
Bernie calls himself a Socialist but he's at best a milquetoast Social Democrat. Humanist_Activist Jun 2020 #171
Heavy sigh. NurseJackie Jun 2020 #172
Don't have a real say, since I'm not in that district. But there's no fucking way I'd vote Guy Whitey Corngood Jun 2020 #107
Some here are letting their problems (valid in most cases) with AOC Blue_true Jun 2020 #110
Assuming they kept all of their same positions? Proud Liberal Dem Jun 2020 #120
Would he pretend Cenyk "makes good points" and is a progressive? LanternWaste Jun 2020 #124
That's a lot of words melman Jun 2020 #128
I have no idea who that woman is. sakabatou Jun 2020 #143
I would really depend on if they can make a convincing case they changed Sapient Donkey Jun 2020 #144
"The time has come," the Walrus said, "to talk of many things: struggle4progress Jun 2020 #145
I don't know Michelle's story, but the other 4 questions were insulting. ecstatic Jun 2020 #162
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