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43. I agree with the right to be angry, but the 'poor terminology' has disastrous
Tue Jun 9, 2020, 07:21 PM
Jun 2020

implications in many ways.

Agree tman Jun 2020 #1
Fund Peace Officers MacKasey Jun 2020 #2
YES! PEACE OFFICERS! raging moderate Jun 2020 #4
So a name change? Better be more than that. Odoreida Jun 2020 #17
Unfortunately, they haven't lived up to that name lately. progressoid Jun 2020 #25
Ooh, I like.... nt Guy Whitey Corngood Jun 2020 #10
More hand wringing over messaging instead of fixing police violence SoonerPride Jun 2020 #3
You won't get what you want if concede the narrative out of the gate. Thomas Hurt Jun 2020 #5
We won't get what we want if we protest peacefully. Or riot. SoonerPride Jun 2020 #9
So OBVIOUS! empedocles Jun 2020 #11
No. It is demeaning and paternalistic SoonerPride Jun 2020 #14
Also, you won't get what you want if you sanctimoniously lecture others LanternWaste Jun 2020 #23
To fix a problem you need popular support. jg10003 Jun 2020 #6
The OP is correct. Why give repugs the ammo that Dems... brush Jun 2020 #8
It doesn't matter. SoonerPride Jun 2020 #12
Ok, miss pessimist. Why don't you just say trump will win in Nov... brush Jun 2020 #18
I'm saying DEFUND THE POLICE are the words of black activists SoonerPride Jun 2020 #19
Wrong again. I'm black and "defund the police" is possibly the... brush Jun 2020 #22
Black activitists need to work together with their non-black allies to get this done coti Jun 2020 #27
Yeah, the pearls clutching over this is very telling. intheflow Jun 2020 #35
It's the same message the RIGHT WING says about guns SoonerPride Jun 2020 #41
It's not hand wringing - the Rethugs renamed the "estate tax" the "death tax" AdamGG Jun 2020 #58
It's not a matter of wringing hands peggysue2 Jun 2020 #69
Totally agree. CrispyQ Jun 2020 #7
'Activists' anger/arrogance empedocles Jun 2020 #13
I agree that defunding is poor terminology, but 'activists' have every right to be angry. marmar Jun 2020 #36
I agree with the right to be angry, but the 'poor terminology' has disastrous empedocles Jun 2020 #43
Ah, you don't like that slogan gratuitous Jun 2020 #15
That conversation is not going to happen with the other side. Ms. Toad Jun 2020 #31
It doesn't even happen on our side. /nt tonedevil Jun 2020 #45
There's still hope there - Ms. Toad Jun 2020 #47
There is no doubt that a major reform Hav Jun 2020 #38
It seems to have worked on the Minneapolis City Council. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2020 #16
Not in reality. mzmolly Jun 2020 #21
No one of note is using that slogan. In fact, the only people I see using it consistently... LanternWaste Jun 2020 #20
Yes we can grantcart Jun 2020 #24
It should be REBOOT THE POLICE budkin Jun 2020 #26
True, "reform the police" speaks to public sentiment. "defund the police" scares people. jg10003 Jun 2020 #28
I heard the "defund" language was amplified by Russian bots on twitter budkin Jun 2020 #29
Police reforms have not come through. intheflow Jun 2020 #37
Exactly! 💯 SoonerPride Jun 2020 #42
The only people it scares are those who Bettie Jun 2020 #44
Dump that expression. Now. TheCowsCameHome Jun 2020 #30
defund is only okay when it involves the post office, amtrak, education, infrastructure, etc. tenderfoot Jun 2020 #32
Those are called tax cuts! intheflow Jun 2020 #39
I agree and the objective will be refined brokephibroke Jun 2020 #33
Agreed! Trump is already saying "disband" to distort. R B Garr Jun 2020 #34
'Police The Police!' Is the Best Choice, Sir The Magistrate Jun 2020 #40
Apples and Oranges. It's not Biden's slogan. Your examples are pres. campaign slogans... blitzen Jun 2020 #46
Maybe it would be a better slogan to "Abolish Qualified Immunity." alwaysinasnit Jun 2020 #48
All the slogans you posted are Propaganda and mean nothing peoli Jun 2020 #49
beat me to it.... Locrian Jun 2020 #70
Realistically DENVERPOPS Jun 2020 #50
I agree 100%. "Defund the police" is a messaging gift to the GOP. Raven123 Jun 2020 #51
Agree. hay rick Jun 2020 #60
"The Police Must Serve The Public." Grokenstein Jun 2020 #52
I agree defund the police is not an effective slogan - and may even be harmful. Ms. Toad Jun 2020 #67
Suggest replacing "Defund the Police" with "Let Looters Loot." hay rick Jun 2020 #53
Enable neighbourhood managed security Layzeebeaver Jun 2020 #54
We need to promote Public Safety BlueIdaho Jun 2020 #55
The slogan is objectively bad...whatever the definition of "defund" is Dopers_Greed Jun 2020 #56
"Restructure with more enhanced social service programs" would be my suggestion......nt Heartstrings Jun 2020 #57
So many other words that could be used Dopers_Greed Jun 2020 #59
Why are Police not monitored like IT help desk or 911 operators? BrightKnight Jun 2020 #61
Protest Etiquette for White Folks... TomVilmer Jun 2020 #62
It is not the same but white people fear police too. BrightKnight Jun 2020 #63
I agree. Who decides these things? LiberalLovinLug Jun 2020 #64
concern noted obamanut2012 Jun 2020 #65
It's actually good melman Jun 2020 #66
Your sons and your daughters are beyond your command. aidbo Jun 2020 #68
Reform The Police! OverBurn Jun 2020 #71
I would like to see a broader term, something along the lines of logosoco Jun 2020 #72
Most police departments seem to be awash with money that needs spending. Aussie105 Jun 2020 #73
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