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StarfishSaver

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15. Intent and premeditation are two different things

Reply to Jersey Devil (Reply #13)

Wed Jun 3, 2020, 02:49 PM

Jun 2020

Intent can arise in the heat of the moment but premeditation occurs in advance.

And there can always be evidence we're not aware of. It's possible that Chauvin was one of a squad of hit man hired by Bill Barr to kill black men across the country, but unless there's evidence to support it, the prosecutors can't charge it just because it's possible.

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Look for charges on killer to be upgraded too. [View all] mobeau69 Jun 2020 OP

Hopefully. Watching that video closely, with Chauvin adjusting his weight Mike 03 Jun 2020 #1

That's not sufficient for first degree murder StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #6

Post removed Post removed Jun 2020 #12

LOL. StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #14

Whatever. Tipperary Jun 2020 #17

Keith Ellison is basing his prosecution on Minnesota statute, not the legal.com dictionary StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #18

Not a lawyer, but I had never heard of 3rd degree murder Cirque du So-What Jun 2020 #2

I'm not a lawyer either but I have heard of "Justifiable Homicide". Of course that would be a abqtommy Jun 2020 #3

Only a few states have the 3rd degree charge. LastDemocratInSC Jun 2020 #4

In Minnesota, 3rd degree murder is causing someone's death by doing something "eminently dangerous" StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #8

I hope they don't charge him with first degree murder StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #5

We don't know the history between the cop and George Floyd, but they worked together Jersey Devil Jun 2020 #9

There's no evidence at this point that Chauvin and Floyd even knew each other, much less that StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #11

You don't have to plan a murder in advance to have specific intent Jersey Devil Jun 2020 #13

Intent and premeditation are two different things StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #15

Someone must've heard you..... 2nd deg.... nt Guy Whitey Corngood Jun 2020 #7

Good! I thought he was undercharged. The local DAs and the cops are drinking buddies. mobeau69 Jun 2020 #16

It's going to be quite a battle. He will have a very well funded defense and with a high profile totodeinhere Jun 2020 #10