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certainot

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63. the other media are part of the free speech spectrum - talk radio is getting a free speech free
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 12:56 PM
Apr 2020

ride. it is the only unique advantage they have and it is now extremely vulnerable if dems just stop ignoring it.

you're mixing causes and effects.

democracy was designed to reduce the power of big money, regulate business, etc. by ignoring talk radio dems/left allow the billionaires to create and coordinate made-to-order constituencies and make their interests look 'popular'.

To get control, Democrats have to destroy wealth grown so big and powerful over the past 40 years that it's incompatible with government by the people. And restore the regulatory leash on business.


not going to happen.

money in politics, deregulation, voter suppression are a direcct result, the symptoms, of letting 1500 coordinated radio stations blast 40 states and 80 ssenators with bulllshit all day. limbaugh/RW was controlling content on 500 stations owned by many different owners for most of aa decade before the tel com act or fox in 96. that's how they forced the telcom act and deregulate money, and more recently voter suppression. dems and media don't know how closely tied the immigration disaster is to voter suppression - 20 years of llying about dems using illegal immigrants to vote for them - that's why we need voter ID etc. every time dems tried to regulate anything the cons lie and repeat unchallenged until they could beat it. most of that can only happen on that talk radio monopoly and it continues now. ALEC was nothing before early 90s/talk radio.

talk radio was and is the key to russian interference, still is, and dems don't even poll for it. talk radio advantage gives trump idiots the confidence to delay action on COVID to help them in the elections.

we can't do much about fox because it's part of the free speech spectrum, with 'alternatives' a click away but the talk radio monopoly is now very vulnerable and ready for destruction. when that starts to happen trump/limbaugh will lose power over enough GOP senators that they will have to dump him or force him to resign. they know how important limbaugh is for making excuses for their bending over for trump and keeping everyone in line.

here's how easily it can happen if dems and the 'left' get it started

1) artificial intelligence-enhanced transcription, digitization, and analysis/monitoring of putin talk radio makes stoprush x 100 inevitable - americans just need to let the ad industry know it's coming. they want the millions of ears those stations reach and will want to protect their clients from being associated with the hate and lies. it wouldn't take much activism or a progressive org or a well known politician or activist to get their attention

2) limbaugh may be gone from lung cancer by election time, or be croaking and taking time off, which is why trump may have wondered aloud if he ought to get his own radio show going. they know they can't replace limbaugh anchoring 600 radio stations. hannity is limbaugh's repeating bozo and they know it. the ad industry has to already be thinking about adjustments.

3) all advertisers and university and pro sports teams that broadcast on RW/trump/putin radio are responsible for helping putin/trump yell HOAX in a COVID theater the last 3 months and enabling the criminality and corruption that has cost thousands of live and millions of jobs. they are directly responsible, and it won't take much to convince the ad industry it is going to have to apply actual 'market demand' for the hate and lies, stop bundling advertisers onto those stations and start asking them if they really want to support trump

4) limbaugh was demoted from the loudest station in CO in september and it may have been in response to the long term pressure the uni of CO was getting to drop KOA. KOA may have chosen between keeping CU (and sympathetic athletes on broncos and rockies) and limbaugh. if the 87 + universities that support 250 limbaugh stations start following suit the pressure on the ad industry will ramp up considerably and it will have to start democratizing talk radio. without that unchallenged monopoly, their only unique advantage, trump and the modern GOP will go back to being a semi-permanent minority

5) it wouldn't take many GOP senators to see your number 3 falling apart with limbaugh and the talk radio monopoly that got and keeps most of them elected
Thank you - a voice of wisdom! Skya Rhen Apr 2020 #1
K&R. Mr. Magistrate. Sir. yonder Apr 2020 #2
Beautifully stated. mzmolly Apr 2020 #3
So you feel that Reade is tailoring her account for the media? guillaumeb Apr 2020 #4
Absolutely I Do, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2020 #5
Agree. ancianita Apr 2020 #10
Indeed, Ma'am, That Report Is Devastating The Magistrate Apr 2020 #12
Well said sir as always. K&R Demsrule86 Apr 2020 #6
Yes, totally false equivalence of Kavanaugh and Biden for Hortensis Apr 2020 #7
It Is True, Ma'am, Reade's Background Is Far From Stable Or Savory The Magistrate Apr 2020 #19
Re: "the foul odor of pious fraud" SouthernAtheist Apr 2020 #26
The Play Is Against Out Better Natures, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2020 #42
unfortunately, what really counts is whose got the 1500 coordinated radio stations certainot Apr 2020 #41
Well, that was power all right, Certainot. They keep losing Hortensis Apr 2020 #43
i think it would be better to destroy the rw radio monopoly instead of just certainot Apr 2020 #53
Yes, but we haven't ignored. You and I agree fully on Hortensis Apr 2020 #58
the other media are part of the free speech spectrum - talk radio is getting a free speech free certainot Apr 2020 #63
Boy, I hope you're right! I was outraged when Radio Moscow Hortensis Apr 2020 #65
i just think issue like taxes are so polluted with disinformation we could do a lot more certainot Apr 2020 #66
Not among political professionals. Corruption of understanding among Hortensis Apr 2020 #67
every issue is about 15 pts to the right of where it would be without their talk radio messaging certainot Apr 2020 #69
:) Damned stupid Democratic leaders. Reality is, peoples go through waves Hortensis Apr 2020 #70
Not among political professionals. Corruption of understanding among Hortensis Apr 2020 #68
100%. nt oasis Apr 2020 #8
K&R musette_sf Apr 2020 #9
Excellent post - K&R for that and the discussion. crickets Apr 2020 #11
Email server, ergo, ipso facto, bullfrogs and lemonade! Hermit-The-Prog Apr 2020 #13
I'm so glad you made this an OP mcar Apr 2020 #14
Exactly! Heard and considered treestar Apr 2020 #49
Exactly, Ma'am The Magistrate Apr 2020 #50
As you stated, the other accusers had credibility mcar Apr 2020 #52
I knew she was a liar when... Happy Hoosier Apr 2020 #15
outstanding post, especially the last sentence... dhill926 Apr 2020 #16
Thank you, Magistrate! SheltieLover Apr 2020 #17
This is the fight. warmfeet Apr 2020 #18
True, Sir --- This One Is For All the Marbles The Magistrate Apr 2020 #51
K & R. nt iluvtennis Apr 2020 #20
Al Franken is no longer a Senator.. mountain grammy Apr 2020 #21
I Hope, Ma'am, Mr. Franken Is The Last Martyr The Magistrate Apr 2020 #25
I hope so too.. mountain grammy Apr 2020 #31
K&R betsuni Apr 2020 #22
I like your line "Never, ever, attack people who are on your side:." I agree this is one big c-rational Apr 2020 #23
That is actually the only line here that I did not agree with Tom Rinaldo Apr 2020 #29
Sometimes, My Friend, Nuance Must Go By The Board The Magistrate Apr 2020 #32
Indeed. Which is why I proudly gave a Rec to this excellent OP. Tom Rinaldo Apr 2020 #34
Thank You, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2020 #36
Disheartening rantormusing Apr 2020 #24
Do, Please, Point Out The Contradictions, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2020 #27
Do please stop being violent rantormusing Apr 2020 #30
Oh My! Thank You For The Laugh, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2020 #35
Congratulations rantormusing Apr 2020 #37
Do Please Keep That Comedy Gold Coming, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2020 #39
sleeper trof Apr 2020 #38
Violent? HarlanPepper Apr 2020 #40
Ooo, both violent & passive-aggressive. Good trick. Hekate Apr 2020 #45
I Am Legion, Ma'am, I Contain Multitudes The Magistrate Apr 2020 #47
Indeed you do! Hekate Apr 2020 #48
Your interpretation of the OP is way out of line. BlueLucy Apr 2020 #54
But It was Amusing, Ma'am The Magistrate Apr 2020 #55
Just read your profile. Boomerproud Apr 2020 #71
My opinion: Right wing disruptors Kingofalldems Apr 2020 #28
Thank you playing the victim but not naming the suspect, Historic NY Apr 2020 #33
K&R Scurrilous Apr 2020 #44
Good OP and thread, Magistrate. Thank you, Sir. Hekate Apr 2020 #46
Thank you sir, may we have another? Blue Owl Apr 2020 #56
One Hopes, Sir, You Are Hoping For Me To Commence a Fresh Thread Soon.... The Magistrate Apr 2020 #59
Yes indeed... Blue Owl Apr 2020 #64
kick lamp_shade Apr 2020 #57
kick. nt Baltimike Apr 2020 #60
I completely agree with you, but if you didn't have the context here of defending Biden... Silent3 Apr 2020 #61
Anyone Trying, Sir, Would Get A Bad Case Of Indigestion With The First Bite The Magistrate Apr 2020 #62
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