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Bernardo de La Paz

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15. It is the logistics curve. Think an exponential and a reverse exponential glued together
Mon Apr 20, 2020, 10:01 PM
Apr 2020

Basically it is exponentially increasing until 50% and then exponentially decreasing, which means a long taper as the human population gets saturated with infection. It describes in a way the population growth of antibodies in the human bio-culture. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logistic_function#In_ecology:_modeling_population_growth

What is the intuitive explanation? We all know that it seems like infections (unchecked) blow up in an area. This is because from this virus's point of view new hosts are easy to find and you're only killing off something from 1% to, say, 5% of hosts. But at the halfway point, infected people start to outnumber uninfected. It gets increasingly harder to find hosts. So the curve slows down and starts running out of steam. At some point like, say, 90% infected, what remains are pockets that don't communicate much with others. So the top flat part of the curve is never really 100%. This is effective herd immunity. The herd is essentially immune and its as if the infection has died out.

Now there are many confounding factors at play, but basically it is a logistic curve. For number of infections think of the vertical as 0.5 = 50%. Think of the horizontal as time. You can think of Month 0 as the worst month of the epidemic.

Logistic curve (Wikipedia):


The rate of change of the curve is the famous Curve We Are Flattening, because that is the rate at which we adding new cases. Technically it is called the logistic distribution (though it is not a probability distribution). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logistic_distribution As you lock down, you slow the rate of infection, which flattens the curve and spreads it out so that hospitals and health care workers are not overwhelmed.

The logistic distribution is the derivative (slope) of the logistic curve.
The logistic curve is the integral (area under) the logistic distribution.

There. You've just learned a bit of calculus. An example of the Fundamental Theorem of Calculus.

Logistic distribution (Wikipedia):


Simply put brokephibroke Apr 2020 #1
hungry lion eats one zebra, decides to leave the rest alone til spike 2? nt msongs Apr 2020 #2
Risky at the individual level. OAITW r.2.0 Apr 2020 #3
The more people who contract the virus and survive, the more community immunity. herding cats Apr 2020 #4
Simply put Horse with no Name Apr 2020 #5
Good explanation. herding cats Apr 2020 #9
Yes. Horse with no Name Apr 2020 #11
The one problem is this is a novel virus, and there's no hard data yet as to how long immunity lasts herding cats Apr 2020 #22
It's not a plan-- it's a result... TreasonousBastard Apr 2020 #6
Sounds like its a plan in Sweden. milestogo Apr 2020 #8
The point when so many are immune it acts like a buffer to further spreading. honest.abe Apr 2020 #7
It means that enough people are immune that it can't spread well Amishman Apr 2020 #10
Everyone gets it. Some die. Some don't. Who knows. C_U_L8R Apr 2020 #12
IgM is the acute antibody, the first one made in the active infection. Olafjoy Apr 2020 #13
It is not a dirty word. judeling Apr 2020 #14
It is the logistics curve. Think an exponential and a reverse exponential glued together Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2020 #15
Would the area under the magenta curve be the same as the blue curves? LeftInTX Apr 2020 #18
Intuitively by eyeball, I agree. But I can't go now to web page & work with the math to know. nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2020 #19
think of bell bottoms. qazplm135 Apr 2020 #16
Herd immunity. yewberry Apr 2020 #17
Herd immunity really is a good thing. PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2020 #20
Thank you, that helps. milestogo Apr 2020 #25
without press coverage,most people would never know SoCalDem Apr 2020 #26
The problem with herd immunity is 60% of the herd could die and the rest MIGHT become immune. In the uponit7771 Apr 2020 #21
After everyone in an area is immunized (the easy way or the hard way), the bug runs out of new hosts backscatter712 Apr 2020 #23
From Wikipedia: dalton99a Apr 2020 #24
Culling sickly animals. denem Apr 2020 #27
Boris almost culled himself. backscatter712 Apr 2020 #28
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