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In reply to the discussion: Tara Reade's public incident report does not mention Joe Biden by name. [View all]Gothmog
(145,802 posts)187. Joan Walsh at the Nation-The Troublesome Tara Reade Story
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There is no evidence former Vice President Joe Biden, now the assumptive Democratic presidential nominee, sexually assaulted aide Tara Reade in 1993. There is no evidence he did not. Reade claims he did specifically, that he pushed her against a wall and digitally penetrated her against her will, when she worked in his US Senate office. Bidens campaign firmly denies it.
The story originated on the left, just about three weeks ago, when diehard Bernie Sanders supporter Katie Halper hosted Reade on her podcast, and encouraged her to tell her story publicly for the first time in 27 years. The story took off from there, on the left and the right, with certain Sanders supporters and Donald Trump backers (whose own man is credibly accused of sexual assault or extreme harassment by more than a dozen women) accusing the mainstream media of pro-Biden bias for not investigating the charges against him.....
Where does this leave us? Reades shifting stories are a huge problem, as they would be for anyone claiming to be the victim of a crime. And as someone who has personally criticized Biden for his persistent invasion of womens personal space up to and including multiple accounts of touching and kissing I find her allegation hard to believe. Is it possible? Sure. Is it probable? No.
And heres why, in addition to Reades credibility issues: in his closely documented, almost 50-year career, there have been no other similar claims against Biden. The Times interviewed the other seven women who came out last year to accuse Biden of touching them against their will; none said his behavior crossed the line to sexual assault. After many dozen interviews, with Reade and her friends, along with lawyers and two dozen Biden staffers, the writers concluded: The Times found no pattern of sexual misconduct by Mr. Biden. Men who do what Reade says Biden did tend to do it more than once (see Harvey Weinstein, Jeffrey Epstein and Donald Trump). Also, once an allegation like Reades surfaces, others usually follow. They have not, at least so far.....
Reporters have done just that with Tara Reade. Her allegation against Biden doesnt stand up to close scrutiny. And bullying by the left or right wont change that.
The story originated on the left, just about three weeks ago, when diehard Bernie Sanders supporter Katie Halper hosted Reade on her podcast, and encouraged her to tell her story publicly for the first time in 27 years. The story took off from there, on the left and the right, with certain Sanders supporters and Donald Trump backers (whose own man is credibly accused of sexual assault or extreme harassment by more than a dozen women) accusing the mainstream media of pro-Biden bias for not investigating the charges against him.....
Where does this leave us? Reades shifting stories are a huge problem, as they would be for anyone claiming to be the victim of a crime. And as someone who has personally criticized Biden for his persistent invasion of womens personal space up to and including multiple accounts of touching and kissing I find her allegation hard to believe. Is it possible? Sure. Is it probable? No.
And heres why, in addition to Reades credibility issues: in his closely documented, almost 50-year career, there have been no other similar claims against Biden. The Times interviewed the other seven women who came out last year to accuse Biden of touching them against their will; none said his behavior crossed the line to sexual assault. After many dozen interviews, with Reade and her friends, along with lawyers and two dozen Biden staffers, the writers concluded: The Times found no pattern of sexual misconduct by Mr. Biden. Men who do what Reade says Biden did tend to do it more than once (see Harvey Weinstein, Jeffrey Epstein and Donald Trump). Also, once an allegation like Reades surfaces, others usually follow. They have not, at least so far.....
Reporters have done just that with Tara Reade. Her allegation against Biden doesnt stand up to close scrutiny. And bullying by the left or right wont change that.
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Tara Reade's public incident report does not mention Joe Biden by name. [View all]
lapucelle
Apr 2020
OP
Questioning the consistencies of a victim who us accusing a man of rape is not victim blaming.
Drunken Irishman
Apr 2020
#37
I expect a level of consistency in any accusation - whether about sexual assault or whatever.
Drunken Irishman
Apr 2020
#70
If she retracted her statement, that would be further proof of her veracity.
OilemFirchen
Apr 2020
#97
There are a lot of inconsistencies, and this bullshit is being pushed by Sanders surrogates such as
still_one
Apr 2020
#68
Thanks Cha, I'll correct. When I do it on my phone the cut/paste misses sometimes
still_one
Apr 2020
#78
There would be a record with the Capitol Police and I'm certain if there was one...
Historic NY
Apr 2020
#83
Then here's the biggest problem she filed a complaint with DC Metro Police...
Historic NY
Apr 2020
#112
There's also this that she tweeted as the polls were closing on Super Tuesday....
George II
Apr 2020
#85
Is there anything to counter what the person claimed? That much turn about in any story would make
uponit7771
Apr 2020
#114
Thank you for this. Sometimes people claim the moral high ground while they're standing
Baltimike
Apr 2020
#24
Wait...what? I linked to a reliable news source concerning the facts of a story
lapucelle
Apr 2020
#15
What makes you think they haven't reached that conclusion by doing their own research?
Drunken Irishman
Apr 2020
#64
I am dismissing it out of hand Joe Biden could never do this and she is lying....
Demsrule86
Apr 2020
#119
I have not reached a conclusion one way or the other about the veracity of this allegation
Ms. Toad
Apr 2020
#47
I don't have to pose a hypothetical, given that a similar situation actually happened.
W_HAMILTON
Apr 2020
#55
That is just your opinion. The NY Times article attempted to get at the truth...
W_HAMILTON
Apr 2020
#66
By discrediting vs truth, do you mean how she neglected to name her alleged assailant in the police
Skya Rhen
Apr 2020
#91
Your posts indicate that you have clearly decided that her allegations are true.
ehrnst
Apr 2020
#161
If she wants her accusation to be treated seriously, let her include his name in the police report.
Skya Rhen
Apr 2020
#96
And I spent more than a decade prosecuting and defendings sexual assault cases
qazplm135
Apr 2020
#178
He was VP and and underwent extensive clearance by the FBI ...this person Tara whoever has no
Demsrule86
Apr 2020
#117
Probably their legal department would be my guess, it just caught my eye as I had the original
Celerity
Apr 2020
#98
Most of us know here that here story is all over the place and she is probably lying
dustyscamp
Apr 2020
#183
New York Times 'Deep Dive' Clears Joe Biden Of Sexual Misconduct: 'No Pattern' Of Bad Behavior
Gothmog
Apr 2020
#99
Thank you for this, Goth! Unsurprisingly, the NYT found no evidence that Biden sexually assaulted..
Cha
Apr 2020
#104
Umm, I think that was sarcastic (at best) since it's coming from the daily wire
Rstrstx
Apr 2020
#128
She launched a lawsuit several years ago saying she was discriminated against for being white
OKNancy
Apr 2020
#116
I think it's important to correct the record. I've also done enough campaign
lapucelle
Apr 2020
#124
Meanwhile, a couple dozen women have accused Trump of sexual misconduct
Clash City Rocker
Apr 2020
#180