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In reply to the discussion: Tara Reade's public incident report does not mention Joe Biden by name. [View all]Gothmog
(145,817 posts)99. New York Times 'Deep Dive' Clears Joe Biden Of Sexual Misconduct: 'No Pattern' Of Bad Behavior
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Unsurprisingly, the NYT found no evidence that Biden sexually assaulted Reade and, whats more, they found no pattern of sexual misconduct by Biden, despite years of claims of unwanted harassment and touching by multiple women.
The Times interviewed Ms. Reade on multiple days over hours, those she told about Mr. Bidens behavior and friends, the lead reporter on the story tweeted Sunday. The Times also interviewed lawyers who spoke to Ms. Reade; nearly 24 people who worked with Mr. Biden in the 1990s and 7 women who criticized Mr. Biden last year.
No other allegation about sexual assault surfaced in the course of reporting, nor did any former Biden staff members corroborate any details of Ms. Reades allegation, she added. The Times found no pattern of sexual misconduct by Mr. Biden.
The Times does admit that Reade made contemporaneous complaints about the assault to friends, and that she didnt simply discover that shed been assaulted by Biden in the last several months or years, as Bidens name surfaced as a potential presidential contender. In fact, the Times does go out of its way to catalog Reades claims, made several times over the course of several years not dissimilar claims made against now-Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh by a former high school classmate.
A friend said that Ms. Reade told her about the alleged assault at the time, in 1993, the Times reports. A second friend recalled Ms. Reade telling her in 2008. Ms. Reade said she also told her brother, who has confirmed parts of her account publicly and her mother, who has since died.
That should give the Times pause after all, it all but declared Brett Kavanaugh guilty of sexual assault over a similar, largely unsubstantiated claim last year. Dr. Christine Blasey Ford, in contrast, did not make any contemporanous reports of her assault, and the only friend who had any recollection of high school summer parties with Kavanaugh and his friends, a woman by the name of Leyland Keyser, said she remembered nothing.
Instead, the Times goes out of its way not just to clear Joe Biden of responsibility in Reades incident but in all incidents, in a shocking statement.
The Times interviewed Ms. Reade on multiple days over hours, those she told about Mr. Bidens behavior and friends, the lead reporter on the story tweeted Sunday. The Times also interviewed lawyers who spoke to Ms. Reade; nearly 24 people who worked with Mr. Biden in the 1990s and 7 women who criticized Mr. Biden last year.
No other allegation about sexual assault surfaced in the course of reporting, nor did any former Biden staff members corroborate any details of Ms. Reades allegation, she added. The Times found no pattern of sexual misconduct by Mr. Biden.
The Times does admit that Reade made contemporaneous complaints about the assault to friends, and that she didnt simply discover that shed been assaulted by Biden in the last several months or years, as Bidens name surfaced as a potential presidential contender. In fact, the Times does go out of its way to catalog Reades claims, made several times over the course of several years not dissimilar claims made against now-Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh by a former high school classmate.
A friend said that Ms. Reade told her about the alleged assault at the time, in 1993, the Times reports. A second friend recalled Ms. Reade telling her in 2008. Ms. Reade said she also told her brother, who has confirmed parts of her account publicly and her mother, who has since died.
That should give the Times pause after all, it all but declared Brett Kavanaugh guilty of sexual assault over a similar, largely unsubstantiated claim last year. Dr. Christine Blasey Ford, in contrast, did not make any contemporanous reports of her assault, and the only friend who had any recollection of high school summer parties with Kavanaugh and his friends, a woman by the name of Leyland Keyser, said she remembered nothing.
Instead, the Times goes out of its way not just to clear Joe Biden of responsibility in Reades incident but in all incidents, in a shocking statement.
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Tara Reade's public incident report does not mention Joe Biden by name. [View all]
lapucelle
Apr 2020
OP
Questioning the consistencies of a victim who us accusing a man of rape is not victim blaming.
Drunken Irishman
Apr 2020
#37
I expect a level of consistency in any accusation - whether about sexual assault or whatever.
Drunken Irishman
Apr 2020
#70
If she retracted her statement, that would be further proof of her veracity.
OilemFirchen
Apr 2020
#97
There are a lot of inconsistencies, and this bullshit is being pushed by Sanders surrogates such as
still_one
Apr 2020
#68
Thanks Cha, I'll correct. When I do it on my phone the cut/paste misses sometimes
still_one
Apr 2020
#78
There would be a record with the Capitol Police and I'm certain if there was one...
Historic NY
Apr 2020
#83
Then here's the biggest problem she filed a complaint with DC Metro Police...
Historic NY
Apr 2020
#112
There's also this that she tweeted as the polls were closing on Super Tuesday....
George II
Apr 2020
#85
Is there anything to counter what the person claimed? That much turn about in any story would make
uponit7771
Apr 2020
#114
Thank you for this. Sometimes people claim the moral high ground while they're standing
Baltimike
Apr 2020
#24
Wait...what? I linked to a reliable news source concerning the facts of a story
lapucelle
Apr 2020
#15
What makes you think they haven't reached that conclusion by doing their own research?
Drunken Irishman
Apr 2020
#64
I am dismissing it out of hand Joe Biden could never do this and she is lying....
Demsrule86
Apr 2020
#119
I have not reached a conclusion one way or the other about the veracity of this allegation
Ms. Toad
Apr 2020
#47
I don't have to pose a hypothetical, given that a similar situation actually happened.
W_HAMILTON
Apr 2020
#55
That is just your opinion. The NY Times article attempted to get at the truth...
W_HAMILTON
Apr 2020
#66
By discrediting vs truth, do you mean how she neglected to name her alleged assailant in the police
Skya Rhen
Apr 2020
#91
Your posts indicate that you have clearly decided that her allegations are true.
ehrnst
Apr 2020
#161
If she wants her accusation to be treated seriously, let her include his name in the police report.
Skya Rhen
Apr 2020
#96
And I spent more than a decade prosecuting and defendings sexual assault cases
qazplm135
Apr 2020
#178
He was VP and and underwent extensive clearance by the FBI ...this person Tara whoever has no
Demsrule86
Apr 2020
#117
Probably their legal department would be my guess, it just caught my eye as I had the original
Celerity
Apr 2020
#98
Most of us know here that here story is all over the place and she is probably lying
dustyscamp
Apr 2020
#183
New York Times 'Deep Dive' Clears Joe Biden Of Sexual Misconduct: 'No Pattern' Of Bad Behavior
Gothmog
Apr 2020
#99
Thank you for this, Goth! Unsurprisingly, the NYT found no evidence that Biden sexually assaulted..
Cha
Apr 2020
#104
Umm, I think that was sarcastic (at best) since it's coming from the daily wire
Rstrstx
Apr 2020
#128
She launched a lawsuit several years ago saying she was discriminated against for being white
OKNancy
Apr 2020
#116
I think it's important to correct the record. I've also done enough campaign
lapucelle
Apr 2020
#124
Meanwhile, a couple dozen women have accused Trump of sexual misconduct
Clash City Rocker
Apr 2020
#180