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kentuck

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Tue Dec 10, 2019, 10:05 AM Dec 2019

Why two Articles are a brilliant idea! [View all]

Last edited Tue Dec 10, 2019, 11:36 PM - Edit history (1)

Both require a minimal number of witnesses. Abuse of power will only require examples. Whereas, obstruction of Congress will require a debate about the Constitution and how much power should be in the hands of Congress and how much power should be in the hands of the Executive. It is a debate that can only help our country in the long run, in my opinion.

For example, obstruction of Justice would require witnesses and the House does not wish for the Senate to be a circus, just a representative body for the American people. Much of it can be umbrellaed under abuse of power.

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Recommended. H2O Man Dec 2019 #1
Agreed. Iliyah Dec 2019 #2
I preferred 4 or more as well Catherine Vincent Dec 2019 #49
The House committee H2O Man Dec 2019 #52
Thank you for the refresher. Catherine Vincent Dec 2019 #57
It was a terrible decision! Towlie Dec 2019 #53
Respectfully disagree. H2O Man Dec 2019 #56
I concur... This is an opening to a longer play-out... MartyTheGreek Dec 2019 #58
Interesting ..... H2O Man Dec 2019 #60
they can give evidence of abuse of power from now till 11/20 if they want. mopinko Dec 2019 #3
i had to read your post barbtries Dec 2019 #4
+1 SterlingPound Dec 2019 #26
How will the senate republicans try to claim trump didn't Obstruct Congress? spanone Dec 2019 #5
I was hoping that violation of the Impoundment Control Act would be a specific article. NurseJackie Dec 2019 #6
As the legal experts on MSNBC are saying -- "Abuse of Power" can be anything including Obstruction. Hoyt Dec 2019 #7
I want the book thrown at the motherfucker, but agreed Dopers_Greed Dec 2019 #8
yep. I can see that fescuerescue Dec 2019 #10
We'll soon see fescuerescue Dec 2019 #9
I'm just disappointed this doesn't tie back well to Russia or 2016 Amishman Dec 2019 #11
I agree n/t dajoki Dec 2019 #12
One pundit said that other Articles would require arguing over witnesses, panader0 Dec 2019 #13
The Senate WILL be a circus ... Whiskeytide Dec 2019 #14
2 articles for 2 scoops IronLionZion Dec 2019 #15
LOL! n/t EndlessWire Dec 2019 #50
Also, think about this scenario: kentuck Dec 2019 #16
The MAGAts will - because they just don't get irony. backscatter712 Dec 2019 #18
Maybe the actual strategy is two articles... this time... backscatter712 Dec 2019 #17
Saving Obstruction of Justice for the next round? kentuck Dec 2019 #19
Obstruction of Congress IS Obstruction of Justice, just a narrower scope StarfishSaver Dec 2019 #30
I think Obstruction of Congress may be more difficult for the Senate to dismiss? kentuck Dec 2019 #39
Yes StarfishSaver Dec 2019 #41
Yep. kentuck Dec 2019 #45
the House doesn't have to send the matter to the Senate any time soon. Grasswire2 Dec 2019 #51
Absolutely. If you want my opinion, send the impeachment to the Senate after Super Tuesday. backscatter712 Dec 2019 #54
The doom addicts and self proclaimed DU experts are unhappy BannonsLiver Dec 2019 #20
lol Cha Dec 2019 #59
Ahh, ye olde K.I.S.S. concept. calimary Dec 2019 #21
Alternative view ..Dem strategist Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2019 #22
Who is the strategist? BannonsLiver Dec 2019 #25
Wiki.. Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2019 #36
So which are his words and which are yours? BannonsLiver Dec 2019 #44
Yes, he's irreverent, and brilliant and funny as hell Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2019 #46
I think like a lot of people here he hasn't actually read the articles yet BannonsLiver Dec 2019 #47
Yes to all three! mountain grammy Dec 2019 #61
Thanks for this.......very helpful. a kennedy Dec 2019 #23
Brilliant Strategy!... MartyTheGreek Dec 2019 #24
?!?! They'll make it a circus come hell or high water?! NOTHING Dems do will give a high proababilit uponit7771 Dec 2019 #27
If they can get 51 votes. kentuck Dec 2019 #29
+1, we'll see ... I can't give them the benefit of the doubt. uponit7771 Dec 2019 #31
We really don't know which Senators might choose to take the trial very seriously? kentuck Dec 2019 #34
After seeing Pompeo's punk ass stand there while the Russian foreign minister said what he uponit7771 Dec 2019 #48
VP doesn't break a tie in impeachments StarfishSaver Dec 2019 #35
Trump probably wants a majority to say that he is acquitted. kentuck Dec 2019 #40
Yes. StarfishSaver Dec 2019 #43
Exactly! StarfishSaver Dec 2019 #28
I think the Democrats have given this some very serious thought. kentuck Dec 2019 #32
Can't they still introduce all matters of BS via overruling the CJ? The CJ for Johnson was overruled uponit7771 Dec 2019 #33
They can try StarfishSaver Dec 2019 #38
Recommended. guillaumeb Dec 2019 #37
Arguing technicalities on patterns of gross abuse would be fruitless bucolic_frolic Dec 2019 #42
"Both require a minimal number of witnesses." For whom? AncientGeezer Dec 2019 #55
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