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Farmer-Rick

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69. It's the stagnation and destructive end stages of capitalism
Sun Dec 8, 2019, 09:58 AM
Dec 2019

When feudalism died, it was because the royals took everything. They thought if they take it all from those in weaker positions, they will then be able to gain even more by letting it out little by little charging outrageous fees or labor taxes. But what happens is that the serf and worker just give up when they have nothing.

First they try to steal it but then police and courts become more and more draconian. This is why the US has more people in jail then any other country in the world. Then they run away, go bankrupt and give up. They try protest too but with no real power, no one listens to them. Even Obama crushed the backs of occupy and no one really cared.

Now, after destroying the protests, the lords and corporations know they have a green light to crush us all.
Capitalism is now consolidating everything into a few filthy rich people's hands. That is was what feudalism did too. All wealth goes to the wealthy. Power goes to the already powerful. But taxes and payment and fees and laws and petty rules go onto the poor and powerless.

It will end but with what is not clear. This is the inevitable stagnation and destruction of capitalism that Marx described. Capitalism is an unfair, cruel and dysfunctional economic system and the patches FDR put on it have been removed. The end of this failed economic system like the end of USSR style communism is coming to the end. But what comes next is unknown.

K&R for visibility. nt tblue37 Dec 2019 #1
I believe the death of the unions was a major factor in both the U.S. and Britain. olegramps Dec 2019 #71
This disaster had a midwife -- and his name is Rupert Murdoch. eppur_se_muova Dec 2019 #2
Yup! nt drmeow Dec 2019 #10
Ronald Reagan also assisted in that birthing room calimary Dec 2019 #15
pretty sure he was the paternal unit. tho the DNA says GOP. pansypoo53219 Dec 2019 #46
Aided, and abetted by Thatcher. n/t Myrddin Dec 2019 #60
Well put. +1 Mersky Dec 2019 #17
Murdoch followed the Reagan/Thatcher New World Order malaise Dec 2019 #18
Exactly. orangecrush Dec 2019 #23
Murodoch's role in the decline of the UK & US can't be omitted. appalachiablue Dec 2019 #29
K/R Robt. Reich, 'Is America Becoming A 3rd World Country?' appalachiablue Dec 2019 #57
WHat can one say? It is demoralizing as hell to live in a short-sighted and very selfish governed hlthe2b Dec 2019 #3
Exactly what is going on!!! n/t RKP5637 Dec 2019 #4
What might be going on is a collapse of monarchism and democracy through corporatocracy's insurgency ancianita Dec 2019 #5
If we're honest with ourselves Doremus Dec 2019 #12
Believe that if you want to, but honesty requires a much bigger perspective than this study. And the ancianita Dec 2019 #26
Sometimes the truth hurts. Doremus Dec 2019 #31
Nobody's standing by unless they are DISabled from using reasonable means to rid ancianita Dec 2019 #35
It's self-preservation to take our well being into our own hands. Doremus Dec 2019 #41
It takes time to learn when they're LYING. I said what I said, not what you said I said. ancianita Dec 2019 #42
Shame does not build a self to preserve. Shame does not build capacity; it incapacitates. ancianita Dec 2019 #43
This mess we're in is 40 years in the making. Doremus Dec 2019 #54
Russia purchased the executive branch orangecrush Dec 2019 #24
Not in the legal, public, contractual up front sense of "purchase." Trump hid illegal money ancianita Dec 2019 #28
Agree 100% orangecrush Dec 2019 #82
It's the stagnation and destructive end stages of capitalism Farmer-Rick Dec 2019 #69
It's interesting that you say "a few filthy rich." We know their names, & relative to billions ancianita Dec 2019 #76
Excellent analysis of where we are and where we are heading Va Lefty Dec 2019 #6
Brilliant duhneece Dec 2019 #7
Dismal and well-thought out essay.... Upthevibe Dec 2019 #8
and if I remember right, most of those 'movements' were demigoddess Dec 2019 #9
What the cyberpunk genre has been predicting for decades ismnotwasm Dec 2019 #11
Watching too many movies lately? YOHABLO Dec 2019 #68
No, it's a specific sci fi genre I'm fond of reading ismnotwasm Dec 2019 #72
Fiction does become reality at some point. So it seems. YOHABLO Dec 2019 #73
So depressing, but true. smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #13
There's also an article in today's WSJ NJCher Dec 2019 #14
Great thread. I've been umair haque's writing in Eudaimonia for a while erronis Dec 2019 #16
+1 keithbvadu2 Dec 2019 #19
The author NAILED this perfectly. Thanks. n/t CousinIT Dec 2019 #20
And they will blame it on Socialism. n/t AwakeAtLast Dec 2019 #21
and the only reason it works is liberals ignore 1500 coordinated radio stations certainot Dec 2019 #32
I agree but WHO has funded the placement of those propaganda broadcasts on 1500 radio stations? hedda_foil Dec 2019 #44
i think a lot of the stations are just loudly dominant in their areas, or the only AM certainot Dec 2019 #48
Agree, RW media is subsidized by billionaires radius777 Dec 2019 #65
Socialism.... the gaslighting of reality UpInArms Dec 2019 #70
Neoliberalism promised freedom - instead it delivers stifling control. KY_EnviroGuy Dec 2019 #22
GREED. period. The rich can NEVER have enough. NRaleighLiberal Dec 2019 #25
sex on the wrong brain explains greed is exacerbated by sending impatient satisfaction- certainot Dec 2019 #30
brexit champion nigel farage is a radio talk show host. trump is a dittohead. and putin uses certainot Dec 2019 #27
What if you are ambidextrous? pbmus Dec 2019 #36
then you might be lucky. and women are more able to use the left hand certainot Dec 2019 #37
What if I'm right handed but got it blown off pbmus Dec 2019 #39
Stop that!!!!!! nt Blue_true Dec 2019 #53
What to do? sandiapeach Dec 2019 #61
Weak government is the problem BeyondGeography Dec 2019 #33
Murdoch has destroyed the US, Australia and Britain. Mickju Dec 2019 #34
if liberals destroyed rw radio in the US, political fox would dissolve certainot Dec 2019 #38
Anyone remember the FCC fairness doctrine? YOHABLO Dec 2019 #74
thanks. the kremlin recognized the problem before the dem party and has been using those stations certainot Dec 2019 #81
Murdoch should be tried for treason and executed. roamer65 Dec 2019 #58
The Murdochs muct be pleased tonite w/ BoJo appalachiablue Dec 2019 #83
Thank you for initiating one of the best discussions I've seen on DU for some time. scarletwoman Dec 2019 #40
We used to have this depth of discussion all the time, didn't we? hedda_foil Dec 2019 #45
It does seem like there was more deep thinking in the early days. scarletwoman Dec 2019 #47
K n R ! Thanks for posting!.... JoeOtterbein Dec 2019 #49
Two words....Reagan and Thatcher. Two more words...their legacy. paleotn Dec 2019 #50
The problem is this. Blue_true Dec 2019 #55
Exactly..... paleotn Dec 2019 #79
It goes back further. Garrett78 Dec 2019 #63
Yep, the blueprints for Reaganism and Thatcherism. paleotn Dec 2019 #78
must read blm Dec 2019 #51
Greed Is Not Good colsohlibgal Dec 2019 #52
So unbridled short-term greed moondust Dec 2019 #56
If England puts Johnson back in as PM, Scotland is out of the UK. roamer65 Dec 2019 #59
I've often wondered.... democrank Dec 2019 #62
Even fairly frugal people can easily end up with credit card debt due to... Garrett78 Dec 2019 #64
Indeed democrank Dec 2019 #67
Consumerism is a way bigger problem than just fixing credit card issues, it's cultural/spiritual ansible Dec 2019 #66
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2019 #75
This Thread is What I Want to See Here McKim Dec 2019 #77
Agree, a critical post and our country is declining sorry to say. appalachiablue Dec 2019 #80
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