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NurseJackie

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74. I think that many fail to understand that there's an important difference...
Sat Dec 7, 2019, 05:36 PM
Dec 2019

I think that many fail to understand that there's an important difference between legislative accomplishments and failed or unrealized attempts.

It's quite fair to ask for examples of actual leadership, or dealmaking/negotiating/compromising, or anything at all that would show evidence of success in shepherding any bills through.

Tweeting is not leadership. She's really accomplished nothing that would make me want to give her any sort of serious consideration for being elected Speaker. She has a lot to learn and needs to mature and grow. She's not there yet.

All I'm trying to say is that the Speaker is a position for someone who's earned his/her stripes, who has the battle scars to prove it, who has demonstrable successes, who knows how to unite, who understands the risks of pride and vanity, who is humble and modest, who takes no joy in acting coy and provocative or divisive, who has the knowledge and maturity and wisdom and experience and temperament that the job requires.

Win-win! 50 Shades Of Blue Dec 2019 #1
She is the future of our party win-win for us StClone Dec 2019 #30
AOC is why the Democratic Party's future is bright indeed!! A true leader in the making!! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #84
Kudos to her. dalton99a Dec 2019 #2
I know she knows better than to hold her breath waiting for that apology gratuitous Dec 2019 #3
'Like a boss'. In 10 years, i really want her to be Madame Speaker... Volaris Dec 2019 #27
Of course they did. Phoenix61 Dec 2019 #4
+1,000 n/t MarcA Dec 2019 #34
Bingo! JoeOtterbein Dec 2019 #5
There is no reason, none, for any business to be given tax breaks and subsidies to grow Autumn Dec 2019 #6
Reading the thread title, I thought it was about caving in the Amazon basin. Coventina Dec 2019 #7
Well. Blue_true Dec 2019 #21
A Kahlua sundae. wnylib Dec 2019 #41
Anything, as long as it satisfy the heart. Blue_true Dec 2019 #42
Corporations will move to were ever Wellstone ruled Dec 2019 #8
Primary her! BeyondGeography Dec 2019 #9
No kidding. BlueWI Dec 2019 #15
Well, not exactly. Maven Dec 2019 #10
indeed Crabby Appleton Dec 2019 #32
23,000 fewer good paying jobs, no victory highmindedhavi Dec 2019 #48
She'll be Speaker of the House someday! Crowman2009 Dec 2019 #11
Name something she's actually done in Congress... brooklynite Dec 2019 #26
Here are some things Gore1FL Dec 2019 #29
The Green New Deal is a phantom piece of aspirational legislation... brooklynite Dec 2019 #46
You asked someone to name things she has done in congress. I provided a list. Gore1FL Dec 2019 #47
Perfect answer greenjar_01 Dec 2019 #49
Bingo. phylny Dec 2019 #56
Bernie Sanders is also great at introducing Bills that don't go anywhere... brooklynite Dec 2019 #58
Again, I answered your question. Gore1FL Dec 2019 #66
I think that many fail to understand that there's an important difference... NurseJackie Dec 2019 #74
+10000 emmaverybo Dec 2019 #79
Why don't you attempt to see AOC in a positive light? PufPuf23 Dec 2019 #37
I see people in a positive light when they deserve it... brooklynite Dec 2019 #44
You do not appear fair then to AOC in your posts at DU PufPuf23 Dec 2019 #53
She said "someday" Big Chief Dec 2019 #75
"The Party is better off once the Baby Bombers move into their sunset" sheshe2 Dec 2019 #50
Obviously I typoed Boomers. PufPuf23 Dec 2019 #52
+1,000,000,000 truest statement I've seen on DU in a long while Locrian Dec 2019 #57
If someone here suggested that Bernie Sanders "head off into the sunset", imagine the reaction. brooklynite Dec 2019 #59
You need to stop bashing Democrats and how dare you blame Dem's of the 90's 'for the mess UniteFightBack Dec 2019 #72
Bravo. emmaverybo Dec 2019 #80
Thanks, emmaverybo. sheshe2 Dec 2019 #81
Thank you so much RandiFan1290 Dec 2019 #55
So Bernie and Biden need to get out of the way for the betterment of the party hack89 Dec 2019 #60
The same could be said about the 'new talent' jabbing at moderates. We need EVERYBODY...got UniteFightBack Dec 2019 #70
agreed left-of-center2012 Dec 2019 #38
She's only been there 11 months, give her time. n/t Dennis Donovan Dec 2019 #54
Wonder if they are still going to the same location? dhol82 Dec 2019 #12
Oops, just noticed they are going to Hudson Yards. dhol82 Dec 2019 #13
They are not. Maven Dec 2019 #14
She's a natural. Kurt V. Dec 2019 #16
A natural self-promoter? happy feet Dec 2019 #67
She's already there. Kurt V. Dec 2019 #87
They should have picked Chicago anyway. Chicago1980 Dec 2019 #17
yup. we could have absorbed them easily. mopinko Dec 2019 #18
They didn't "cave", these were two entirely different plans for Amazon that they were negotiating... George II Dec 2019 #19
I agree. nt Crabby Appleton Dec 2019 #36
Thanks for a more exact, accurate characterization. nt reACTIONary Dec 2019 #76
Can't say that I always agree with her, but I love her spirit and determination. nt Blue_true Dec 2019 #20
Amazon Should Be Paying Us To Not Break Them Up And To Help The Small Businesses They Destroy DanieRains Dec 2019 #22
Amazon. Ha. Looks like they kept Indiana on the list until. Captain Zero Dec 2019 #23
Looking at the tweet you would think Amazon was bringing the 25,000 jobs to LIC anyway, just RelativelyJones Dec 2019 #24
Before you start celebrating..... brooklynite Dec 2019 #25
One really has to dig for the truth nowadays, even here. Hoyt Dec 2019 #28
Actually very typical for "news" around here Crabby Appleton Dec 2019 #31
Here in Wisconsin, we paid one company $4B to AllyCat Dec 2019 #64
I don't understand this post. Captain Stern Dec 2019 #33
The new plan moondust Dec 2019 #35
I suspect she will be 'primaried' when she runs for re-election left-of-center2012 Dec 2019 #39
She already has three Democratic opponents... brooklynite Dec 2019 #45
Future POTUS? warmfeet Dec 2019 #40
Oh yeah she'll be able to win the swing states with ease. UniteFightBack Dec 2019 #71
Amazon is not building a headquarters in Queens. It's leasing new office space in Manhattan. lapucelle Dec 2019 #43
NYT did an article on this back in March. See my post #61 below. George II Dec 2019 #62
Original Amazon deal was the equivalent of a crooked stadium deal greenjar_01 Dec 2019 #51
Hear, hear! AllyCat Dec 2019 #65
Amazon is renting office space. They are neither buying nor building. lapucelle Dec 2019 #68
Maybe they would have gotten a better place to live. Kaiserguy Dec 2019 #69
That is simply not true. Other than a normal state grant given to ALL new businesses in NYS.... George II Dec 2019 #73
This message was self-deleted by its author ancianita Dec 2019 #82
Amazon didn't "cave", NYS and NYC lost. More on this: George II Dec 2019 #61
A victory for union busting n/t Odoreida Dec 2019 #63
I was and still am against the Amazon deal, but this post is completely misleading. marybourg Dec 2019 #77
Not haters. People who had a different view, your constituents. You still lost lots and emmaverybo Dec 2019 #78
+1 sheshe2 Dec 2019 #83
"The smugness does not help the folks you lost for." NurseJackie Dec 2019 #85
How many people applauding AOC accomplishment know that Hudson Yards is a huge public subsidy site? brooklynite Dec 2019 #86
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