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well someone has to die to protect the interests of American multi-national corporations nt msongs Nov 2019 #1
Perfectly said DENVERPOPS Nov 2019 #50
Some respect and concern for them as PEOPLE is in order. Hortensis Nov 2019 #172
I think it started going overboard after 9/11 captain queeg Nov 2019 #2
Don't get me started on firefighters. Yes there is danger and some put there lives on the Dream Girl Nov 2019 #4
I couldn't agree DENVERPOPS Nov 2019 #63
The idea that police work is incredibly dangerous or "riskier" as you put it, is a canard A HERETIC I AM Nov 2019 #133
You are correct JonLP24 Nov 2019 #139
Yup. A HERETIC I AM Nov 2019 #140
I totally agree with your first statement DENVERPOPS Nov 2019 #144
If you'd been to San Francisco you'd understand the wooden ladders jmowreader Nov 2019 #181
ooooooo, sorry to hit a nerve. DENVERPOPS Nov 2019 #206
And don't forget the food! Nature Man Nov 2019 #218
Contrary to your popular myth DENVERPOPS Nov 2019 #224
True, most big city firefighters and police officers are White men. Blue_true Nov 2019 #88
Nope. First Gulf War. GoCubsGo Nov 2019 #47
Exactly right. utopian Nov 2019 #67
First Gulf War and before that, the invasion of Panama. The first Cable TV wars. ArtTownsend Nov 2019 #89
"Jingoistic." GoCubsGo Nov 2019 #100
Yup. "Cannon fodder." ArtTownsend Nov 2019 #102
Everyone should DENVERPOPS Nov 2019 #151
Worship of soldiers go in cycles. Blue_true Nov 2019 #103
Well, except for lonely bird Nov 2019 #189
You are right. I meant to put on a very broad scale in that sentence but forgot. Blue_true Nov 2019 #221
The Hero Worship is a Planned Campaign McKim Nov 2019 #180
The police and firefighter worship started after 9/11. Blue_true Nov 2019 #84
Good points all around. Thanks. ArtTownsend Nov 2019 #92
Indeed DENVERPOPS Nov 2019 #207
That's pretty much how this old white lady feels about it. 50 Shades Of Blue Nov 2019 #3
I had the same talk with my son when he was fairly young. lark Nov 2019 #202
Ditto DENVERPOPS Nov 2019 #209
Post removed Post removed Nov 2019 #5
You say no one died for black lives. cwydro Nov 2019 #6
Ummm that's kind of a fairy tales. Dream Girl Nov 2019 #12
Oh, so good to know. Lincoln and the war had nothing to do with freeing the slaves. cwydro Nov 2019 #18
Her post does more than "astound" me. Haggis for Breakfast Nov 2019 #158
I hear ya. cwydro Nov 2019 #159
lincoln freeing slaves....? ConnieAZ1 Nov 2019 #226
So your stance is that the civil war was about state rights and not slavery? egduj Nov 2019 #31
Truly, Lincoln was a man of great conscience and morality, and ending slavery was important to him. colorado_ufo Nov 2019 #43
I figure it was states' rights and slavery. 3Hotdogs Nov 2019 #72
Third grade Virginia history, circa 1958. NT mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2019 #80
Yes, I have too. cwydro Nov 2019 #107
No, its' not. paleotn Nov 2019 #120
You're close in using "fairy tales," but not the way you think. No offense intended, but millions ancianita Nov 2019 #122
I will have to check these out. Dream Girl Nov 2019 #124
I did not see this statement in OP kozar Nov 2019 #83
Recommended. The US military has not protected our freedom Ron Green Nov 2019 #7
"The US military has not protected our freedom within my lifetime." EX500rider Nov 2019 #220
The Red Scare was BS samir.g Nov 2019 #228
lol...rigggghttt....those 50,000 tanks were all for fun.... EX500rider Nov 2019 #229
Have you ever talked to anybody who lived in Hungary, Czechoslovakia, Lithuania, EX500rider Dec 2019 #241
The effects of climate change will probably do him in. Kaleva Nov 2019 #8
Because of our national state religion gratuitous Nov 2019 #9
I agree JonLP24 Nov 2019 #10
In reality, it's just lip service. Veterans and not respected. They are viewed as disposable Dream Girl Nov 2019 #15
I agree it is definitely mostly lip service JonLP24 Nov 2019 #16
I almost hate to admit it, but I have to agree with you there. smirkymonkey Nov 2019 #65
So true. Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2019 #223
The military IS that worshipped. FiveGoodMen Nov 2019 #24
I agree JonLP24 Nov 2019 #27
Sounds good FiveGoodMen Nov 2019 #28
RIGHT !!! Support Troops by not feeding MIC and keeping them out of stupid wars and over feeding VA uponit7771 Nov 2019 #154
Spot on.. dware Nov 2019 #165
I agree Beringia Nov 2019 #11
Many people have relatives & friends in the military that appalachiablue Nov 2019 #13
I'm sure little 6 year old Amira in Afghanistan Jake Stern Nov 2019 #77
Still the backlash to the perceived ill-treatment DeminPennswoods Nov 2019 #14
Yup, and now there is no anti-war movement. bahrbearian Nov 2019 #20
I think a lot of it has to do with that. Stories told that were not necessarily true has us all Jewls2 Nov 2019 #56
PERCEIVED?????? DarleenMB Nov 2019 #58
Some did kill babies. SMC22307 Nov 2019 #60
I read a while back that someone did some research, and there are no PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2019 #85
That is correct. It was pretty much manufactured outrage to punch the hippies and war protesters. ArtTownsend Nov 2019 #96
There is an iconic photo of a child running from a napalm DeminPennswoods Nov 2019 #99
That girl was injured by Vietnamese napalm from the Vietnamese air force, not Americans. braddy Nov 2019 #111
It's not possible to say it never happened, but I believe it is difficult to find mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2019 #109
Um, that's just a Sylvester Stallone quote Nature Man Nov 2019 #184
Yeah, don't take the word of returning vets who had to live it. pintobean Nov 2019 #192
Yep, an opinion piece (anecdotal) is plenty proof (YAWN) Nature Man Nov 2019 #196
I'm not too young to remember it. pintobean Nov 2019 #213
I am old enough to remember it Nature Man Nov 2019 #215
Snort pintobean Nov 2019 #227
Whether or not you want to believe it, dware Dec 2019 #245
Yep. Owl Nov 2019 #205
Is there really proof of that? treestar Dec 2019 #253
Wars like WWI and WWII were a lot different from the junk we "fight" today. Today, we have too many Hoyt Nov 2019 #17
Imagine what kind of country this could be without the obscene level of military spending Dream Girl Nov 2019 #19
Agree. As long as the USA wants to bully other nations, it won't change. Hoyt Nov 2019 #25
Yup. ArtTownsend Nov 2019 #93
Gallagher enlisted under Clinton's presidency was highly decorated and one of our top navy SEALs and braddy Nov 2019 #142
Screw hired killers. Worthless POS -- Gallagher -- murdered children in some gungho fit of hatred. Hoyt Nov 2019 #146
Gallagher murdered children? dware Nov 2019 #148
Before sticking up for murders, I suggest using some search skills. Hoyt Nov 2019 #155
Thank you for the links. dware Nov 2019 #156
see a link? Nature Man Nov 2019 #216
Already got several so your dware Nov 2019 #237
Wow snowybirdie Nov 2019 #21
But the poison weapons thing was a hoax Beringia Nov 2019 #23
The poison weapons actually came from the US JonLP24 Nov 2019 #26
The words may sound extreme but there is validity to them. Caliman73 Nov 2019 #179
Thank You putting into words what I always think Rollerman Nov 2019 #22
This is kind of disappointing GanjaGrower Nov 2019 #29
Well said Tech Nov 2019 #33
Great post. cwydro Nov 2019 #35
Nazi Germany was no doubt awful JonLP24 Nov 2019 #37
The USSR was much worse consider this. braddy Nov 2019 #149
Thank you JonLP24 Nov 2019 #150
Very well said! BigOleDummy Nov 2019 #86
Well said shipmate Farmer-Rick Nov 2019 #90
Crap. ismnotwasm Nov 2019 #123
You did risk your life though treestar Nov 2019 #147
Welcome to DU, GG. ❤ nt littlemissmartypants Dec 2019 #244
Our military-industrial complex is just a big economic feeding trough Bradshaw3 Nov 2019 #30
Brad DENVERPOPS Nov 2019 #70
Eisenhower never saw combat and Rumsfeld went directly from chairman of Gilead to Bush's admin. braddy Nov 2019 #119
My point exactly on Eisenhower DENVERPOPS Nov 2019 #157
Thanks Bradshaw3 Nov 2019 #153
I am thankful for our men and women who have served, are serving, and will serve. egduj Nov 2019 #32
Everything in our lives here on Earth is a racket to get MONEY. Brainfodder Nov 2019 #34
Agree for the most part DENVERPOPS Nov 2019 #163
I think many Americans bow and scrape to the military raccoon Nov 2019 #36
Because Republicans made Military Service equal to the highest form of patriotism NewJeffCT Nov 2019 #38
Post removed Post removed Nov 2019 #39
Hey, Loki! MyOwnPeace Nov 2019 #97
When I joined the Army, kozar Nov 2019 #40
.... handmade34 Nov 2019 #52
Ignorant of history much? If it wasn't for our military, America wouldn't exist Baclava Nov 2019 #41
"If it wasn't for our military, America wouldn't exist" pangaia Nov 2019 #48
Thank you. cwydro Nov 2019 #51
Honour the PERSON. Nobody joins military to "serve" corporations; so, yes we do HONOUR service Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2019 #42
Good post. I think your premise about WAR is spot on. And runs MUCH deeper than your pangaia Nov 2019 #44
Our military is necessary in a dangerous world with bad actors Martin Eden Nov 2019 #45
Agree. We started being in a state of awe Polly Hennessey Nov 2019 #46
oh Jesus evertonfc Nov 2019 #49
"we rally behind the troops" Martin Eden Nov 2019 #188
I think the marketing campaign to elevate the military started with Vietnam Sancho Nov 2019 #53
I have evolved into feeling the same as you. I agree. Jewls2 Nov 2019 #54
You're beating the wrong horse DarleenMB Nov 2019 #55
Well stated and excellent point. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2019 #78
I'm not dissing them. At all. Wat I'm dissing is the military worship I see Dream Girl Nov 2019 #110
Also, since higher education is expensive, many people join the military for college funding KSNY Nov 2019 #57
A counterpoint: volstork Nov 2019 #59
I'd be surprised if the OP knows from what war that poem came. cwydro Nov 2019 #161
Soldiers don't get to choose which wars they get to fight. Redleg Nov 2019 #61
I don't want my tax dollars to go to fighting KPN Nov 2019 #75
This is more a critique of the Presidency than of the military Redleg Nov 2019 #87
Yes. It's a critique of how and why we use our military KPN Nov 2019 #112
This message was self-deleted by its author Jake Stern Nov 2019 #62
I don't know about this worship shit.... Brother Buzz Nov 2019 #64
Draftees Are A Different Matter, Buzz ProfessorGAC Nov 2019 #185
The draftee served an IMPORTANT role, and it's something that is mostly missing in today's military Brother Buzz Nov 2019 #219
No Argument ProfessorGAC Dec 2019 #238
Fast froward a few years and we learn us dumb veterans of the Army of the United States (AUS).... Brother Buzz Dec 2019 #243
Consider The Source, Buzz ProfessorGAC Dec 2019 #246
Korea ... we lost that war. Vietnam ... we lost that war. erlewyne Nov 2019 #66
Our Vietnam war dead were 70% volunteers, our WWII war dead were 70% draftees. braddy Nov 2019 #116
I did not know that erlewyne Nov 2019 #126
Hardly anyone knows that because the media paints Vietnam as a disgruntled, loser, draftee war, braddy Nov 2019 #128
What does it matter if they were highly skilled warriors Beringia Nov 2019 #138
I didn't hear complaints about Vietnam in the Army, except about how we were fighting it. braddy Nov 2019 #141
your post is confusing erlewyne Nov 2019 #168
"Korea ... we lost that war" If we had lost that war N Korea would have owned the whole country. EX500rider Nov 2019 #222
I considered it an honor to serve my nation on active military duty for 20 years. 40RatRod Nov 2019 #68
This seems to be a hot topic post. kozar Nov 2019 #69
I appreciated that point of her post JonLP24 Nov 2019 #74
100% agree n/t kozar Nov 2019 #76
Clever. orangecrush Nov 2019 #71
The post before yours touched on a key point. Blue_true Nov 2019 #129
General Smedley Butler's book, "War Is a Racket." 3Hotdogs Nov 2019 #73
So glad to see this. Sad to see no response. redqueen Nov 2019 #197
How old will he have to be before he's allowed to think for himself? mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2019 #79
I would say about 5-7 years kozar Nov 2019 #106
I'm OK thanking our service members for their service... GitRDun Nov 2019 #81
"Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not." braddy Nov 2019 #160
After Vietnam, veterans were treated badly extvbroadcaster Nov 2019 #82
The truck drivers are exposed JonLP24 Nov 2019 #95
Some are and some are not Farmer-Rick Nov 2019 #98
Post-Vietnam efforts by the Reagan-Bush era revanchists. 9/11 and the "War on Terror" certainly made ArtTownsend Nov 2019 #91
Complete agreement! Thanks for sharing those thoughts...muy bien dicho! Karadeniz Nov 2019 #94
Because they are willing to die to protect and defend the Constitution bottomofthehill Nov 2019 #101
So they say. And yes, talk is cheap. Dream Girl Nov 2019 #118
I agree with you 100%. Mickju Nov 2019 #104
The US was founded by a war, guillaumeb Nov 2019 #105
she stated she was talking to her kozar Nov 2019 #108
I agree Dream Girl. LiberalLovinLug Nov 2019 #113
My father, a WWII veteran Mr.Bill Nov 2019 #114
It was the same for me when I was a little girl lunatica Nov 2019 #115
Good for YOU!!!!!! McKim Nov 2019 #182
Promoting peace is really a full time job lunatica Nov 2019 #201
Worship? No. Respect? Yes. paleotn Nov 2019 #117
Military service was normal for generations of men, for instance 10 million boomers served, since braddy Nov 2019 #121
It seems like most cultures have a deep respect for their warriors... aikoaiko Nov 2019 #125
usually comes from people who have no idea what the military is about, just saying beachbumbob Nov 2019 #127
My point is the undue worship we are expected to pay. Those in the military are entitled Dream Girl Nov 2019 #134
by Wolfgang Borchert hauweg Nov 2019 #130
I don't know why you do. I don't. Kaleva Nov 2019 #131
This is a good question because the answer says everything about yourself. Joe941 Nov 2019 #132
General Smedley Butler's writings should be mandatory reading. Garrett78 Nov 2019 #135
Or listening. It is so disappointing to see his words are still not heeded. redqueen Nov 2019 #198
False premise, divide and conquer bullshit Baked Potato Nov 2019 #136
+1 RelativelyJones Nov 2019 #178
From the perspective of this former soldier, Quackers Nov 2019 #137
ty Quackers kozar Nov 2019 #143
It seems they make every event or holiday about the military. LiberalFighter Nov 2019 #145
I remember the current deification of the military beginning as a rebuttal Poiuyt Nov 2019 #152
This thread is shameful. pintobean Nov 2019 #162
Not really. This is some people's expierence. Joe941 Nov 2019 #169
More lack of pintobean Nov 2019 #173
It would help if you explain why. I can't wait. Nt USALiberal Nov 2019 #174
Anyone who thinks war is solely a human experience... MicaelS Nov 2019 #164
I think the fact that animals war Ron Green Nov 2019 #204
We don't. We respect soldiers as trying to do their duty regardless of our personal feeling about emmaverybo Nov 2019 #166
When I got of the military in 1989 Opel_Justwax Nov 2019 #167
I don't worship the military, so next time America is under attack, I'm on my own.. Dream Girl Nov 2019 #170
I agree with you I_UndergroundPanther Nov 2019 #171
I respect a nurse, coal miner, roofer the same! Nt USALiberal Nov 2019 #175
The only winning move is not to play. 7wo7rees Nov 2019 #176
war, it's our nature Demonaut Nov 2019 #177
The military is a jobs program that serves the corporations and their interests. Autumn Nov 2019 #183
I had a friend in the military Nature Man Nov 2019 #186
In my life/world, I have to keep silent on what I think of the military/industrial/corporate complex Ferrets are Cool Nov 2019 #187
I suggest lonely bird Nov 2019 #190
Can you please expand on that last statement? Is it about diplomacy? Dream Girl Nov 2019 #191
Thanks for asking lonely bird Nov 2019 #236
You and John Lennon my DU friend... FreeWheatForever Nov 2019 #193
Thanks for that. I remember when I was about 8 or 9 seeing the obituaries of the Dream Girl Nov 2019 #217
Another thought FreeWheatForever Nov 2019 #233
You said that very well PatSeg Nov 2019 #194
The soldiers are happy about some of the men dying... TomVilmer Nov 2019 #195
Universal Soldier by Buffy Sainte Marie. War is a Racket by Smedley Butler. redqueen Nov 2019 #199
When I joined Woodwizard Nov 2019 #200
My opinion, FWIW malthaussen Nov 2019 #203
Excellent analysis. Dream Girl Nov 2019 #211
Every empire needs a huge army. guillaumeb Nov 2019 #208
Yep. Dream Girl Nov 2019 #214
I don't. It's interesting and a little horrifying to watch, though. Iggo Nov 2019 #210
How late was it until the US Armed Forces were forcibly desegregated? Nature Man Nov 2019 #212
There are many reasons. Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2019 #225
I don't "worship" them, but they do put there lives whathehell Nov 2019 #230
Thanks for spitting on my military service, Dream Girl pshediack Nov 2019 #231
I'm assuming you received pay, housing, benefits and a pension? Dream Girl Nov 2019 #232
Your assumption is correct... pshediack Dec 2019 #242
Thank you!!!! Stinky The Clown Nov 2019 #234
Massive UNREC Stinky The Clown Nov 2019 #235
The military can be an awesome opportunity if one wants to take advantage of it madville Dec 2019 #239
Sounds like a sweet deal. You made it work for you and it sounds like you don't need or expect Dream Girl Dec 2019 #240
You guys really want to feel good, don't you. RichardRay Dec 2019 #247
War is insane. Love of the military is sick. Dream Girl Dec 2019 #249
A December 7th kick pintobean Dec 2019 #248
A lot of this started after Vietnam vets came home to ridicule nini Dec 2019 #250
The Reason Why. The reasons Democrats make sure they're seen respecting Vogon_Glory Dec 2019 #251
It is no longer seen as a group effort treestar Dec 2019 #252
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