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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #10)

Thu Nov 28, 2019, 11:35 AM

14. Yes. Look to all the dynamics that cause it, which boil down to personalizing

... personalizing the argument. "Only a fool would believe tRump on Deep State." "So, you are calling me a fool?" "I dunno, some kinda nut to take him seriously." Even shouting at the opponent to intimidate them is personalizing the argument.

There are many logical arguments against bigotry.

Anytime the argument veers to illogic, point it out. When they attack Vindman for his origins, point out it is an ad hominen attack. Call it that. Explain the concept if necessary. Show how it applies. Then point out how they aren't able to defeat the message so they attack the messenger.

At some point, the "family member" will cross over into a personal attack. That is when to look around the whole table asking "Can we all agree to not make personal attacks?" If we can't discuss politics without making it personal, then we can't discuss politics at the family table.

Arm yourself to recognize fallacies.
An Illustrated Book of Bad Arguments
Be scrupulous about not making it personal.
Call it out and get support when they make it personal.
If they instead have the support of the family, then leave the table and go home.

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