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In reply to the discussion: My semi-rural township was pure Republican when I moved in. Yesterday the last Republican... [View all]lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)26. OK. Let's also include economics.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cost_of_electricity_by_source
https://www.forbes.com/sites/dominicdudley/2018/01/13/renewable-energy-cost-effective-fossil-fuels-2020/#3ea32cb34ff2
http://www.renewable-energysources.com/
https://www.nrel.gov/news/press/2017/nrel-report-utility-scale-solar-pv-system-cost-fell-last-year.html
https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/2018/01/solar-pv-costs-expected-cut-half-2020/
https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/plugged-in/wind-energy-is-one-of-the-cheapest-sources-of-electricity-and-its-getting-cheaper/
And of course, keep in mind that all of the above studies assume that the largest costs of fossil fuels are externalized (i.e. not the utility operator's problem). Externalized costs include health problems from polluted air, and (duh) the existential threats posed by climate change (fires, floods, loss of coastal cities, mass migrations...)
https://www.epa.gov/statelocalenergy/estimating-health-benefits-kilowatt-hour-energy-efficiency-and-renewable-energy
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/news/2017/09/climate-change-costs-us-economy-billions-report/
So, lobbyists can advocate all they want for propping up the dying (and killing) fossil fuel industries, based on "science" and "facts" but in reality that's all based on narrow greedy self-interests, not honest science, not the interests of the energy-buying public, and certainly not economic realities. Fossil fuels are going away because they are unaffordable, and all the advocacy, all the bots, all the trolls, and all the public corruption in the world, can't change that reality.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/dominicdudley/2018/01/13/renewable-energy-cost-effective-fossil-fuels-2020/#3ea32cb34ff2
http://www.renewable-energysources.com/
https://www.nrel.gov/news/press/2017/nrel-report-utility-scale-solar-pv-system-cost-fell-last-year.html
https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/2018/01/solar-pv-costs-expected-cut-half-2020/
https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/plugged-in/wind-energy-is-one-of-the-cheapest-sources-of-electricity-and-its-getting-cheaper/
And of course, keep in mind that all of the above studies assume that the largest costs of fossil fuels are externalized (i.e. not the utility operator's problem). Externalized costs include health problems from polluted air, and (duh) the existential threats posed by climate change (fires, floods, loss of coastal cities, mass migrations...)
https://www.epa.gov/statelocalenergy/estimating-health-benefits-kilowatt-hour-energy-efficiency-and-renewable-energy
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/news/2017/09/climate-change-costs-us-economy-billions-report/
So, lobbyists can advocate all they want for propping up the dying (and killing) fossil fuel industries, based on "science" and "facts" but in reality that's all based on narrow greedy self-interests, not honest science, not the interests of the energy-buying public, and certainly not economic realities. Fossil fuels are going away because they are unaffordable, and all the advocacy, all the bots, all the trolls, and all the public corruption in the world, can't change that reality.
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