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Native

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Sat Oct 5, 2019, 10:58 AM Oct 2019

Trump admin attempted to conduct an illegal covert psyop on the American public... [View all]

says Asha Rangappa (former FBI Agent, CNN analyst, Lecturer at Yale) Here's her tweet thread in full (the clip she references is the CNN video showing the text messages from Volker).

One thing not to overlook in understanding the significance of the texts is that in addition to soliciting section assistance and abusing his power, Trump was attempting to employ covert propaganda against the American public:

As I note in the clip above, one thing the texts make clear is that the administration wasn't just interested in Ukraine investigating Biden -- they were specifically interested in the *messaging* about the investigation. If what you care about is "corruption," you would be satisfied with an assurance that Ukraine was going to investigate. Instead, the Trump admin doesn't care so much about the investigation itself, but making sure that the fact that it is being investigated is *being broadcast* to the audience they care about: American voters.

IMPORTANTLY, they are very invested in the message being crafted in a *specific way* -- tailored to Trump's benefit by maximizing the "seeds of doubt" on both Biden and the 2016 election. It's being drafted by Trump's personal lawyer! In addition, the message was going to be delivered as an official statement from Ukraine, with NO INDICATION that the United States either precipitated or participated in its creation in any way. This, folks, is called black propaganda. Black propaganda attempts to conceal the true source of information, so that the target cannot accurately assess the credibility of the message or the motives of the source behind it.

Trump wanted to cloak his own role and motives behind a statement of a foreign country The goal here is to manipulate the American public into to thinking that Ukraine had *independently* reached the same conclusions about the Russia investigation, and/or uncovered criminal leads about Biden. Trump could then use this to bolster his own views.

Not for nothing, but a good chunk of the cases I investigated in the FBI were "perception management" (propaganda) cases. We actively try to STOP foreign countries from doing this to us, because we believe that part of an open society and marketplace of ideas is ensuring that people know the true source of information in order to assess credibility and critically evaluate the content (FARA originated in 1938 as a way to combat Nazi propaganda, be requiring state-sponsored content to be identified as such) Basically, you have the Trump admin attempting to conduct an illegal covert psyop on the American public, using officials from the State Department and his own attorney to do it. It's literally a version of what Russia did in 2016. /END


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">THREAD. One thing not to overlook in understanding the significance of the texts is that in addition to soliciting section assistance and abusing his power, Trump was attempting to employ covert propaganda against the American public: <a href="https://t.co/owbiahRcPG">pic.twitter.com/owbiahRcPG</a></p>— Asha Rangappa (@AshaRangappa_) <a href="
?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 4, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Also in Newsweek: https://www.newsweek.com/former-fbi-agent-says-trump-attempted-employ-covert-propaganda-against-american-public-1463328
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Excellent OP malaise Oct 2019 #1
If he is so concerned about Scarsdale Oct 2019 #10
"No one believes you care about corruption, Donald. That's like a pimp saying... Native Oct 2019 #23
Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah malaise Oct 2019 #24
Oh, yeah. rickyhall Oct 2019 #25
No surprise to me at all oswaldactedalone Oct 2019 #2
Ixnay on the ubhumansay, ok? ZZenith Oct 2019 #7
Thank you for this Kitchari Oct 2019 #32
As an old German guy once said: ZZenith Oct 2019 #34
Exactly. n/t Kitchari Oct 2019 #41
+1 ck4829 Oct 2019 #46
I harken back to the days when we were Turbineguy Oct 2019 #3
Right ck4829 Oct 2019 #39
That's going to be the big Article of Impeachment. Conspiracy to defraud Americans (or similar) NightWatcher Oct 2019 #4
Operation "Dastardly" also plants the seed to grow Baked Potato Oct 2019 #5
Well, look to the teacher shanti Oct 2019 #6
So where do Rush and the ratfuckers at FOX fall in? Mr. Ected Oct 2019 #8
It was reagan who I_UndergroundPanther Oct 2019 #27
yup. that's the foundation of the cult Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2019 #29
KICK orangecrush Oct 2019 #9
The Ukrainians didn't need to actually find anything on the Bidens William Seger Oct 2019 #11
Indeed ck4829 Oct 2019 #40
what she and rachel maddow, for instance, are missing is certainot Oct 2019 #12
100% Agree HootieMcBoob Oct 2019 #19
Well...you're not going to want to hear this. I did not. PatrickforO Oct 2019 #13
Steven Cash unpacks this for us.... Native Oct 2019 #15
Impeachment is mentioned nowhere in the OP though, nor does Ms Rangappa mention it anywhere ck4829 Oct 2019 #43
This is what power always does. If the people become pesky asking for justice, PatrickforO Oct 2019 #57
It worked in 2016... hot2na Oct 2019 #14
I seriously believe we're almost there and I don't see anything to stop him Texin Oct 2019 #18
tRump consistently can't help bragging about his wrongdoings. Texin Oct 2019 #16
Who? ConstanceCee Oct 2019 #17
Good question ck4829 Oct 2019 #44
Oh, and those texts between Trump diplomats seeking dirt from Ukraine? They were sent on WhatsApp, Native Oct 2019 #20
Everything he does is about nothing other than the optics randr Oct 2019 #21
K&R... spanone Oct 2019 #22
That's what I've been saying for some time... regnaD kciN Oct 2019 #26
This! mcar Oct 2019 #54
Excellent post. Ditto to the above post. Firestorm49 Oct 2019 #28
This was not about Ukraine finding any evidence of wrong doing Farmer-Rick Oct 2019 #30
It's like when he threatens to sue someone... JohnnyRingo Oct 2019 #31
This, I assume, is Trump's way of expanding his base peggysue2 Oct 2019 #33
Indeed ck4829 Oct 2019 #50
K&R burrowowl Oct 2019 #35
Retweeted! Thank you! Cha Oct 2019 #36
Glad you retweeted this. Native Oct 2019 #37
Yes, and thank you for reminding me! Cha Oct 2019 #60
Excellent ck4829 Oct 2019 #47
K&R ck4829 Oct 2019 #38
good post..... Takket Oct 2019 #42
Perception is reality, it really is ck4829 Oct 2019 #49
+1 nt backtoblue Oct 2019 #59
Is anyone violating the Hatch Act? kentuck Oct 2019 #45
Good thing to look into ck4829 Oct 2019 #48
Lots of folks should be heading for prison malaise Oct 2019 #51
In this, I fear it's working mcar Oct 2019 #52
And it makes me sick to my stomach Native Oct 2019 #53
Swiftboating all over again mcar Oct 2019 #55
Is this the one that began with "Russia, if you're listening ...", or something else bucolic_frolic Oct 2019 #56
kick kentuck Oct 2019 #58
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