I just spent two hours working on complete horseshit.

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13. Single payer is used by very few countries to achieve Universal Health Care. Most use hybrid payers.

To attack anyone at all who points out that Single Payer took decades to get up to speed in the few countries where it is used, or to point out the problems with Bernie Sanders' timeline and cost estimates as "greedy fuckers" isn't factual or productive.

We are working towards universal health care as the goal. If we can get there faster with a multi-payer plan, with some private elements like the vast majority of the rest of the industrialized world, that would be preferable than a bill that will likely meet the same fate as the requirement for Medicaid expansion did. If the 2010 SCOTUS struck down the ACA's mandate that states expand Medicaid to more poor people, even if the Federal Government paid for it, how do you think the current SCOTUS will rule on the inevitable challenge to a law that requires the expansion of Medicare AND Medicaid to everyone? Look at how the GOP was able to kneecap some of the many parts of the ACA.

We should not make mistake that anti-choicers make, by dismissing/demonizing health care policy experts as "shills of the Planned Parenthood and the abortion industry" who say that getting rid of Planned Parenthood will not stop abortions, and in fact, may increase their numbers and make them more dangerous. Their first goal stopped being to reduce abortion, and became "punishing the greedy doctors and those promiscuous women" rejecting any strategy, no matter how effective, that doesn't eliminate Planned Parenthood and criminalize providers.

(No, I'm not comparing Planned Parenthood to private insurance providers. I'm comparing the tribal thinking that the "solution" has become dogma, and demonizes anyone who points out the problems in that "solution" as heretics, "stupid," and/or "greedy bastards."

There are ways to get affordable health care to more people that would be quicker and more efficient than a bill that can't deliver what it promises, as per non-partisan, self-funded health care policy think tanks and experts.

I will believe those experts over a political promise any day.

I understand your anger. I have only in the last 15 years gotten out of horrific debt because of medical bills as an uninsured person just out of college who landed in the hospital for two weeks with two bleeding ulcers, then again 3 years later for a week for the very same.

Yes, our health care system is fucked up. Like the issue of emancipation, there may not be a solution that doesn't create more problems in other aspects of health care and the economy, or hurt other people. It's a 'wicked problem" that defies a single simple answer, no matter what the intentions of a politician who promises one.