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Bernardo de La Paz

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141. Communism is a red herring and not even analogous. . . . nt

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Fri Jun 21, 2019, 04:50 PM

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Pelosi blows off AOC 'concentration camp' remarks [View all] orangecrush Jun 2019 OP

clearing throat, avoid saidsimplesimon Jun 2019 #1

Yes empedocles Jun 2019 #5

Perhaps She Skipped Comment Me. Jun 2019 #11

she commented eom shanny Jun 2019 #104

But IT Wasn't A Real Criticism Me. Jun 2019 #114

American concentration camps Blues Heron Jun 2019 #2

The intention is to hold/detain them to be deported , though. Hortensis Jun 2019 #9

George Takei disagrees. Tipperary Jun 2019 #12

He can disagree all he wants. My husband's family Hortensis Jun 2019 #17

So because they are not gassing them - Tipperary Jun 2019 #18

No, because they're not deliberately murdering them at all, Hortensis Jun 2019 #22

They're concentration camps. triron Jun 2019 #46

They are still concentration camps. Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #95

A friend explained it like this. "When they rounded up women and children behind barbed wire, Autumn Jun 2019 #73

The massive wave of Authoritarianism can influence us all. delisen Jun 2019 #87

Your opinion is as subjective as all others. LanternWaste Jun 2019 #74

My parents lost family members in the Holocaust DavidDvorkin Jun 2019 #98

Never thought I'd see Duers defending concentration camps Blues Heron Jun 2019 #14

Seriously, like what the fuck, people?! Efilroft Sul Jun 2019 #16

No, you don't. Concentration camps were slave labor Hortensis Jun 2019 #20

It's part of our history. The camps, where the Japanese were held, were known as concentration camps Baitball Blogger Jun 2019 #24

Yes, Baitball. :) THOSE are both forms of concentration Hortensis Jun 2019 #28

You sure have a lot of theories about what is and isn't a concentration camp Blues Heron Jun 2019 #32

Whatever. I value the power and critical importance of language. Hortensis Jun 2019 #34

Whatever. Concentration camps it is. triron Jun 2019 #47

You might not want to accuse other here, including me, of twisting language. pangaia Jun 2019 #61

Not in S Africa, California WW2, Yugoslavia civil war, & many other places. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2019 #140

Communism is a red herring and not even analogous. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2019 #141

This. Is. How. It. Starts. Otherize/demonize. Segregate. Deny civil rights & human rights.Imprison. Hekate Jun 2019 #142

Among the names on this wall is 13 of my family who died in a REAL concentration camp Jake Stern Jun 2019 #36

Post removed Post removed Jun 2019 #38

Words have meanings despite your obsession Jake Stern Jun 2019 #39

Concentration camps are not synonymous with death camps. Turin_C3PO Jun 2019 #40

AOC invited this by making the comparison Jake Stern Jun 2019 #43

That should be ICE's new slogan "Not as bad as the Nazis so STFU" Blues Heron Jun 2019 #45

You know that's not what he's saying.. Cha Jun 2019 #64

99.999% of the population doesn't know shit about history, or language, or art pangaia Jun 2019 #62

Again, I'm not saying they're the same. Turin_C3PO Jun 2019 #72

Oh, bullshit! Events set names. Concentration camps post WWII have a defined meaning. GulfCoast66 Jun 2019 #51

Sorry, we're just not going to agree here. Turin_C3PO Jun 2019 #71

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2019 #53

Were they worked to death or executed in gas chambers? Jake Stern Jun 2019 #59

OOppss.. I guess that doesn't count. pangaia Jun 2019 #63

Hey fuck it, they're just brown people. denbot Jun 2019 #67

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2019 #69

BS Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #96

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2019 #52

They are text book concentration camps in context uponit7771 Jun 2019 #56

I disagree that these are not concentration camps. pangaia Jun 2019 #60

The people are concentrated into camps. Gore1FL Jun 2019 #76

+1, they are technically concentration campz uponit7771 Jun 2019 #55

AOC is right. n/t demmiblue Jun 2019 #3

AOC may be 'right' for her district, her career. empedocles Jun 2019 #4

No, she is right on a broader level. They are concentration camps, and it is a moral issue. demmiblue Jun 2019 #6

Some may think AOC right on a narrower level; ethical, moral, legal, ideological, [all fine empedocles Jun 2019 #8

I don't think you save democracy shanny Jun 2019 #106

Damn straight that is what they are. Laffy Kat Jun 2019 #10

Yup. nt Tipperary Jun 2019 #13

One would think crimes against humanity would be considered serious by most. Nt Gore1FL Jun 2019 #77

No question from me: there are very powerful moral, legal, ethical, etc. issues that need to be empedocles Jun 2019 #112

No sense getting drawn into a ridiculous argument gratuitous Jun 2019 #7

+1 Gidney N Cloyd Jun 2019 #15

+2 orangecrush Jun 2019 #21

+1000. nt ecstatic Jun 2019 #25

+ struggle4progress Jun 2019 #26

The concentration camps were the machinery of genocide, mass murder. There, people were worked to emmaverybo Jun 2019 #35

Nonsense gratuitous Jun 2019 #37

I can fix that, but I can't fix your sweeping "wrong on facts, wrong on history..." which is no emmaverybo Jun 2019 #41

It seems to me you know of only one example in history of 'concentration camps.' pangaia Jun 2019 #65

I have learned that the definition can be applied to other examples. However, I think Ocasio-Cortez emmaverybo Jun 2019 #68

Not quite Gore1FL Jun 2019 #78

Since folks here have educated me, I now know that "concentration camp" can describe a wider emmaverybo Jun 2019 #86

No you are the one out of step with history Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #99

This...once again we're off arguing semantics about what to call something... Wounded Bear Jun 2019 #42

And, although the keepers are not killing people in them trev Jun 2019 #50

Is it "killing them" to withhold adequate health care? Doremus Jun 2019 #88

Yes, I agree with you, and trev Jun 2019 #89

..👍🏼 uponit7771 Jun 2019 #57

+1000 Kind of Blue Jun 2019 #131

Here we go again... budkin Jun 2019 #19

What's outrageous to me is that some in the media have made AOC's comments the outrageous ecstatic Jun 2019 #23

You nailed it. Completely. Sugar Smack Jun 2019 #122

We've lost our way. They are going to concentrate a group of ppl into camps. Millions trump says Kurt V. Jun 2019 #27

What is Ms. Ocasio-Cortez doing to stop this Nuggets Jun 2019 #29

You guys all got the same marching orders didn't you Blues Heron Jun 2019 #48

No, I've pointed out Dems have already Nuggets Jun 2019 #49

+1, uponit7771 Jun 2019 #58

Post removed Post removed Jun 2019 #81

Oh for pete sake she is not minimizing anything.. pangaia Jun 2019 #66

Yes she is Nuggets Jun 2019 #70

Your opinion.. pangaia Jun 2019 #75

She made our concentration camps a public discussion. Gore1FL Jun 2019 #80

These detention centers horrible conditions were Nuggets Jun 2019 #90

What does the Jewish community have to do with the concentration camps we have on our border? Gore1FL Jun 2019 #91

The entire reason AOC used the words was to use Nazi death cano Nuggets Jun 2019 #92

How do you know? Gore1FL Jun 2019 #93

Oh sure. Nuggets Jun 2019 #100

Yes. You are right. She knew she was evoking the holocaust. NT emmaverybo Jun 2019 #102

What would help immigrants in those concentration camps Gore1FL Jun 2019 #117

So you're a mindreader Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #97

Why hasn't she apologized for the Nuggets Jun 2019 #101

So she's not allowed to comment on the situation Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #105

I don't need to be. Nuggets Jun 2019 #119

No it's not? Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #128

Sure I do Nuggets Jun 2019 #129

No you don't Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #130

You mean like this one? Gore1FL Jun 2019 #118

Neither of those are apologies Nuggets Jun 2019 #120

Apologies? No they are in support of AOC. Just like the dictionary does. Gore1FL Jun 2019 #121

In other words she caused a huge divide using Nuggets Jun 2019 #123

She didn't cause a huge divide. The people who don't own dictionaries did. Gore1FL Jun 2019 #127

You make the classic error confusing death camps with concentration camps. Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2019 #136

Post removed Post removed Jun 2019 #139

AOC was right on! Just tellin it like it is. ananda Jun 2019 #30

I couldn't care less WHAT she called these camp Docreed2003 Jun 2019 #31

this shanny Jun 2019 #107

More gaslighting from the right. Thomas Hurt Jun 2019 #33

I am a huge fan of Nancy Pelosi... jcgoldie Jun 2019 #44

Get behind what exactly? nt DURHAM D Jun 2019 #54

Supporting her caucus members for truth telling? Gore1FL Jun 2019 #79

AOC is only useful to Pelosi because she gave her back the majority... WoonTars Jun 2019 #82

AOC is in a Democratic district. DURHAM D Jun 2019 #83

Calling a Concentration Camp a Concentration Camp should not be as controversial as having them. nt Gore1FL Jun 2019 #94

Bingo. shanny Jun 2019 #108

It's alarming that statement needs to be made on a Dem board... WoonTars Jun 2019 #135

So, you read minds? ehrnst Jun 2019 #133

She was part of the wave that energized the base that gave the Dems the majority... WoonTars Jun 2019 #134

One of 40, that's 2.5%. George II Jun 2019 #143

Didn't most of the candidates she endorsed in the primaries lose? lapucelle Jun 2019 #144

"Part of the wave that energized the base" ehrnst Jun 2019 #145

Boy, I've Seen A Lot Of Uninformed Views On This Site Me. Jun 2019 #137

It is 2019. the border camps are total institutions. Children are being delisen Jun 2019 #84

What is a good term? Midnightwalk Jun 2019 #85

+1000 Kind of Blue Jun 2019 #132

When AOC is President and Pelosi is still Congresswoman fescuerescue Jun 2019 #103

When Pelosi is Speaker of the House she'll hold the second most powerful elected position in the USA Hekate Jun 2019 #113

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL nini Jun 2019 #116

Hilarious Me. Jun 2019 #138

Misleading. Nancy did not "blow off AOC." She specifically said she had not spoken with AOC... Hekate Jun 2019 #109

I suspect there are some who are intentionally trying to soe division among Democrats. still_one Jun 2019 #124

Why is it so important what we call them? AirmensMom Jun 2019 #110

The New York Post (Trump's favorite rag and the source of the cited headline and story) lapucelle Jun 2019 #111

Nancy Pelosi is a national treasure ! stonecutter357 Jun 2019 #115

This message was self-deleted by its author still_one Jun 2019 #125

LOL. Nancy Pelosi is a Queen underthematrix Jun 2019 #126