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Midnightwalk

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51. Why not include the other part?
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 10:48 AM
Jun 2019
Holocaust scholars draw a distinction between concentration camps (described in this article) and extermination camps, which were established by Nazi Germany for the industrial-scale mass murder of Jews in the ghettos by way of gas chambers.


And of course you know the term dates from 1897, has been used widely prior to the holocaust and the use in Germany started in 1933.

If I wanted to be as one sided I would say that clearly the refusal to call them concentration camps is to downplay the severity of what is happening.

Your argument is not logical. Some rectangles are squares. Some things that aren’t squares are still rectangles.

The policy of separation is to intimidate migrants by brutalizing them. It also dehumanizes them.

The right answer to anyone saying these camps are not as bad as anything the Nazis did is “when that become the criteria for what is acceptable”.

I’m not sure what the best tem is, but I reject the suggested replacements because they don’t have negative enough connotations. The part you excerpted includes the word debate.

K&R murielm99 Jun 2019 #1
Sad when it happened during WWII pazzyanne Jun 2019 #2
The people claiming these are not concentration camps IronLionZion Jun 2019 #3
excellent point. dixiegrrrrl Jun 2019 #4
except this hfojvt Jun 2019 #8
Mike Godwin has stated the comparisons are valid IronLionZion Jun 2019 #9
You may have been taught that, but it is still incorrect. Saviolo Jun 2019 #12
"...You can call them summer camps if you like..." deurbano Jun 2019 #14
Auschwitz was a complex of camps. Red Pest Jun 2019 #20
No they are concentration camps. Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #53
Thank you. dixiegrrrrl Jun 2019 #21
Auschwitz proper and Dachau were not death camps, but rather concentration camp obamanut2012 Jun 2019 #35
You say the purpose is to say "trump is as bad as hitler" as if we all know that's false unblock Jun 2019 #28
the logical flaw in this is... dixiegrrrrl Jun 2019 #31
Cages are cages True Blue American Jun 2019 #41
Why not include the other part? Midnightwalk Jun 2019 #51
You conflate the words 'imply' and 'infer'. LanternWaste Jun 2019 #52
+1,000 malaise Jun 2019 #33
Post removed Post removed Jun 2019 #39
Manzanar - Inyo County, California DemoTex Jun 2019 #5
Sou desu ne そうですね。 yuiyoshida Jun 2019 #16
I think that is an Ansel Adams photo from a little known book of his on Manzanar. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2019 #17
Thanks Bernardo! DemoTex Jun 2019 #19
That photo is as good as any in that Ansel Adams book. I just checked my copy. Well done! Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2019 #24
Born Free and Equal Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2019 #30
Here is a link to Adams' website regarding this ... with a slideshow UpInArms Jun 2019 #46
Thanks! He made his stand for what he believed. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2019 #47
Post removed Post removed Jun 2019 #6
People use "concentration camp" to mean "death camp" DavidDvorkin Jun 2019 #7
but most of us are not that old hfojvt Jun 2019 #10
It's time to update people's incorrect beliefs, then. Saviolo Jun 2019 #13
That's why so many of us are correcting erroneous information dixiegrrrrl Jun 2019 #32
actually, older. dixiegrrrrl Jun 2019 #22
I didn't mean that it originated in the Boer War DavidDvorkin Jun 2019 #23
Interesting dixiegrrrrl Jun 2019 #36
That is, as you have described it, genocide. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2019 #26
You loaded Google by Googling "German concentration camp" cannabis_flower Jun 2019 #15
My radical pacifist grandfather got beaten bloody by the cops for protesting the internment... hunter Jun 2019 #11
That grandfather sounds like this guy, only in California gratuitous Jun 2019 #25
Takei Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2019 #18
I remember reading It Can't Happen Here, which was published in 1935.... Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2019 #27
Also, gulag. dixiegrrrrl Jun 2019 #37
Hitler started the same way Trump is trying to do now. True Blue American Jun 2019 #42
This message was self-deleted by its author geralmar Jun 2019 #29
But I met the woman who lobbied True Blue American Jun 2019 #43
This message was self-deleted by its author geralmar Jun 2019 #54
No problem! True Blue American Jun 2019 #55
NPR 2012 lostnfound Jun 2019 #34
Agreed. Rumor is that cremation ovens have probably already been ordered. nt MadDAsHell Jun 2019 #38
That is not funny! True Blue American Jun 2019 #44
I'm not joking. nt MadDAsHell Jun 2019 #45
I know.:) True Blue American Jun 2019 #56
Either way, they flip flopped MasonDreams Jun 2019 #40
Did the gov't deny soap and toothpaste to the Japanese-Americans? keithbvadu2 Jun 2019 #48
K & R & Retweeted SunSeeker Jun 2019 #49
The Nazi Concentration Camps were Precursors to Their Death Camps dlk Jun 2019 #50
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