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FakeNoose

(32,883 posts)
18. I think I understand your point
Wed Jun 12, 2019, 10:04 AM
Jun 2019

In order to win next year we need to maintain party discipline and cohesion. I do agree with regard to our registered party members, however we're under a very large and growing tent.

Consider the many independents who never registered as Democrats but generally vote with us anyway. (For many years I was one of those indies, and I do get it.) It goes without saying that we must get the indies on our side and the right nominee will do that, the wrong one might not. Besides the independents, we can hope to attract some never-Trumpers and many disaffected former GOPers. These people will vote against Chump (hopefully) but not necessarily for our candidate.

The candidate we choose to be our standard-bearer next year needs to be someone who can embrace these non-Democrats and yet not turn his/her back on the core Democratic principles. The party faithful need to understand that some posturing or backpeddling will happen now and then, and it's not a sign of weakness.

Not everyone will warm up to the term "establishment" Democrat because many of us are Baby Boomers who grew up with an anti-establishment mentality. So ... you know ....

I don't know what that means. Turin_C3PO Jun 2019 #1
Ask Thom Hartmann Cary Jun 2019 #2
The Democratic Party is a coalition Cary Jun 2019 #3
Well I agree with that. Turin_C3PO Jun 2019 #4
That is the point Cary Jun 2019 #5
K&R!!! n/t RKP5637 Jun 2019 #6
Some in the Democratic Party, at least for now, have been demonizing the Democratic Party.... George II Jun 2019 #19
What's the other side? Progressive? Shell_Seas Jun 2019 #7
The devil goes by many names Cary Jun 2019 #8
I don't understand what you're saying. Are you calling progressives the devil? Shell_Seas Jun 2019 #9
I agree Cary Jun 2019 #11
Ok, well, that clears things up... Shell_Seas Jun 2019 #13
I was always clear Cary Jun 2019 #14
So, do you think that only centrists will vote blue no matter who? Shell_Seas Jun 2019 #15
Did I say any of that? Cary Jun 2019 #28
Ok. Riddle me this. Shell_Seas Jun 2019 #34
I'm happy for you Cary Jun 2019 #35
This message was self-deleted by its author Shell_Seas Jun 2019 #37
You're so nice! I like you (even if you confuse me) Shell_Seas Jun 2019 #38
You should not be confused Cary Jun 2019 #41
Petty bickering? ChubbyStar Jun 2019 #42
Sunlight is the best disinfectant Cary Jun 2019 #46
"Should" is a very tricky word to use. pangaia Jun 2019 #52
or 🍊. Semantically: unconventional robbedvoter Jun 2019 #22
I suppose one would have to ask those who've been demonizing many Democrats as... George II Jun 2019 #23
I think shell knows that already Cary Jun 2019 #27
Yes, but mostly to differentiate myself from hostile nuts. :) Hortensis Jun 2019 #10
"the magnificent,highly diversecoming together of the best of America that is the Democratic Party Cary Jun 2019 #12
+++ brer cat Jun 2019 #16
I don't think we should slice and dice the party. Vinca Jun 2019 #17
I don't have any control over that Cary Jun 2019 #26
I think I understand your point FakeNoose Jun 2019 #18
It wasn't that long ago that Planned Parenthood was called establishment tishaLA Jun 2019 #20
The word "establishment" is dumb. Voted for that choice to show my contempt. robbedvoter Jun 2019 #21
The word "establishment" is unnecessary Cary Jun 2019 #24
I reject the label game altogether DFW Jun 2019 #25
What better way to protest than to embrace it? Cary Jun 2019 #30
What better way to avoid grief than to pass it by? DFW Jun 2019 #45
Election season is here Cary Jun 2019 #47
I may live in Europe DFW Jun 2019 #48
i am certainly not on "the other side" rampartc Jun 2019 #29
ICH BIN EIN BERLINER! Cary Jun 2019 #31
Mmmm... brooklynite Jun 2019 #39
I was gonna say DFW Jun 2019 #49
I remember when seemingly most of us here G_j Jun 2019 #32
The past is prologue Cary Jun 2019 #40
Not a label person. LakeArenal Jun 2019 #33
Isn't that the purpose of a coalition? Cary Jun 2019 #36
Deep. shanny Jun 2019 #54
I like it Cary Jun 2019 #58
I am also a proud establishment Democrat Gothmog Jun 2019 #43
Post removed Post removed Jun 2019 #44
I am an 'Establishment Democrat'. sheshe2 Jun 2019 #50
im with planned parenthood JI7 Jun 2019 #51
I'm against buckley v. valeo. there ya have it. Kurt V. Jun 2019 #53
Establishment Democrat means anti-progressive and progressive means anti-establishment betsuni Jun 2019 #55
Absolutely! I'm with John Lewis and the rest Cha Jun 2019 #56
I like Bernie and AOC Polybius Jun 2019 #57
Where is that written? Cary Jun 2019 #59
They are not establishment Polybius Jun 2019 #61
Sez who? Cary Jun 2019 #62
Everyone? Polybius Jun 2019 #64
So you speak for everyone Cary Jun 2019 #65
I know establishment is what isn't it Polybius Jun 2019 #67
Look up Cary Jun 2019 #68
This thread does not make up the majority Polybius Jun 2019 #69
I am willing to admit I'm wrong if someone proves me wrong Cary Jun 2019 #70
I always gladly admit it too when I'm wrong Polybius Jun 2019 #71
What's your point? Cary Jun 2019 #72
My point is that with all due respect, you were wrong in your OP Polybius Jun 2019 #73
You apparently don't understand my point Cary Jun 2019 #74
I'm not establishment at all JonLP24 Jun 2019 #60
I'm a pragmatic liberal democrat who wants 45 impeached ASAP ecstatic Jun 2019 #63
I'm a Liberal, Yellow Dog Democrat. Lady Freedom Returns Jun 2019 #66
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