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appal_jack

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42. Certainly not.

Sun Jun 2, 2019, 02:26 PM

Jun 2019

Nothing about Trump is clean, and financial matters appear to be among the dirtiest (second perhaps only to his approach to governance).

I just don't happen to think that the next breathless revelation regarding Trump crimes and outrageousness will have a particularly greater impact than all the previous breathless revelations regarding Trump crimes and outrageousness to which we've been an audience since 2015 or longer.

The question is, what are the Democrats in the House going to do about it? Your suggestion above of sitting on our hands until 2020 would just about guarantee that nothing would come of impeachment, while handing the corporate media a convenient narrative that all this is just a nakedly partisan campaign tactic.

We can and must do better, much sooner.

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So it's official. Democrats will not pursue Impeachment [View all] berni_mccoy Jun 2019 OP

They're not doing it *yet.* Doesn't mean they won't do it. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2019 #1

Schiff gave a 'strongly worded warning' to Trump berni_mccoy Jun 2019 #4

Heck, he could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot Adam Schiff dalton99a Jun 2019 #7

Are they waiting for an engraved invitation? Blues Heron Jun 2019 #37

I wonder if they're being blackmailed. LuvNewcastle Jun 2019 #47

We're on the same wavelength here. Lunabell Jun 2019 #54

Schiff said the "calculus may change", you're saying it won't? From whom did you get that? George II Jun 2019 #81

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Who is "us"? lapucelle Jun 2019 #33

The Democratic Base berni_mccoy Jun 2019 #38

I'm the Democratic base. lapucelle Jun 2019 #41

Good for you berni_mccoy Jun 2019 #44

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That seems to have snuffed the flame - for now. I'm not sure who's right or wrong erronis Jun 2019 #59

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OFFS, carry on. berni_mccoy Jun 2019 #80

Clearly, you are part of the minority of the base Bettie Jun 2019 #58

No, you're not. And please don't insult committed, Hortensis Jun 2019 #74

House Committees do a lot more, a LOT more, than just hold hearings. If nothing else.... George II Jun 2019 #82

Yes...YET! Once those financial doc's are in Dem's hands...it ain't gonna be pretty. nt UniteFightBack Jun 2019 #6

Fitzmas any day now, right? nt appal_jack Jun 2019 #19

When hell freezes over it might even snow. gldstwmn Jun 2019 #26

Porcine livestock evolving wings, too. appal_jack Jun 2019 #88

Do you believe his financial documents are going to come out clean? nt UniteFightBack Jun 2019 #28

Certainly not. appal_jack Jun 2019 #42

It's about timing. Impeachment is a political process...right? So everybody is up in arms about UniteFightBack Jun 2019 #56

I am willing to hear a rational argument for Fall 2019. appal_jack Jun 2019 #87

And when is that likely to be? Bettie Jun 2019 #60

They've decided against a paper impeachment (impeachment when the Senate won't impeach). Honeycombe8 Jun 2019 #73

Where did you get the phrase "paper impeachment" and what do you mean by it? Demit Jun 2019 #84

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Arbitrary tactical error for what? For you? mahina Jun 2019 #10

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Because it's a political process PSPS Jun 2019 #15

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Exactly. triron Jun 2019 #21

The thing is it's never the right time. gldstwmn Jun 2019 #27

Thank you!! Thekaspervote Jun 2019 #51

Maybe Schiff, Pelosi, and others are using reverse psychology?! InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2019 #35

"the leadership is strongly against opening an impeachment proceeding. " earthshine Jun 2019 #39

Who is "us"? lapucelle Jun 2019 #48

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Hope springs eternal for the shit-flinging orangutan - he'll pivot dalton99a Jun 2019 #3

Please stop. No, they are not going to right NOW. They have NOT taken it off the table. hlthe2b Jun 2019 #8

I wish you are right but I've heard this all before berni_mccoy Jun 2019 #24

Yes... it's startin to get old!! If impeachment is on the table, then let's eat!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2019 #36

Heard it about as many times as the corollary as well. LanternWaste Jun 2019 #91

Not true. They are taking the necessary steps to investigate and are mahina Jun 2019 #9

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No. mahina Jun 2019 #13

I think they may (I hope they do) start an enquiry before Thanksgiving. If that passes, I doubt they Celerity Jun 2019 #14

Who is "us"? lapucelle Jun 2019 #30

I have defended Mueller and the House leadership. So too have I ranted about inaction in weaker mom tymorial Jun 2019 #16

What would the worst message going into the 2020 election be? appal_jack Jun 2019 #18

I suspect you would complain bitterly no matter what direction they go. BannonsLiver Jun 2019 #20

Exactly Empowerer Jun 2019 #23

Fuck it! Hotler Jun 2019 #22

If they don't care about putting a stop to Trump gldstwmn Jun 2019 #25

A lot of Republicans crossed over and voted for Democrats Meadowoak Jun 2019 #64

Schiff made an official announcement saying Democrats will not pursue impeachment? lapucelle Jun 2019 #29

Democrats have announced they will? berni_mccoy Jun 2019 #31

Can you provide a link with actual quotes? lapucelle Jun 2019 #32

That is a real quote berni_mccoy Jun 2019 #34

The key words are "and at this point." There are only 50+ Representatives that openly support it pnwmom Jun 2019 #40

Sorry pwnmom, I've heard this all before berni_mccoy Jun 2019 #43

That a partial quote. Do you have a link? lapucelle Jun 2019 #45

STOP Bev54 Jun 2019 #49

No. He is expressing what many of us lifelong passionate Democrats are feeling. I don't believe Nevermypresident Jun 2019 #52

This message was self-deleted by its author lapucelle Jun 2019 #68

NO! Blues Heron Jun 2019 #55

agree. i just can't figure out why. anyway... moving on. Kurt V. Jun 2019 #53

At this point, I'd rather the House start sending legislation to the Senate on Hoyt Jun 2019 #57

How many bills have been sent to the Senate? 100? Taraman Jun 2019 #61

How many bills have been obscured by impeachment talks. I know they won't pass. Hoyt Jun 2019 #62

I don't know Hoyt. All I hear in the media is this fight within the Democratic Party Taraman Jun 2019 #66

Don't really think it's the MSM fault. We are spending all our time on Impeachment, and obviously Hoyt Jun 2019 #71

Jesus. ismnotwasm Jun 2019 #63

The Democratic leadership is going all in hoping Trump destroys himself and the GOP Freethinker65 Jun 2019 #65

What show was he on? I saw most of MTP. It looks like we're being strung along? Honeycombe8 Jun 2019 #69

This Week on ABC... babylonsister had a post on it this morning berni_mccoy Jun 2019 #70

Thx. nt Honeycombe8 Jun 2019 #72

Impeach now! brutus smith Jun 2019 #75

Impeachment? Then what? An exoneration party? redstateblues Jun 2019 #76

Exoneration will happen regardless. In a lose-lose situation... berni_mccoy Jun 2019 #78

Trump being "exonerated" by a handful of GOP collaborators means nothing Azathoth Jun 2019 #93

Official? Not hardly. TwilightZone Jun 2019 #83

Here is some interesting polling Gothmog Jun 2019 #85

Actually, no I can't understand the hesitancy based on polls. Televised impeachment Nevermypresident Jun 2019 #86

Exactly! Duppers Jun 2019 #89

Remember when Nixon's Saturday Night Massacre resulted in an immediate Impeachment effort? brooklynite Jun 2019 #90

Anyone who remembers Democratic "opposition" to Dubya won't be surprised Azathoth Jun 2019 #92

Sez who? yardwork Jun 2019 #94