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In reply to the discussion: Should the students who benefited from deceit be expelled? [View all]hughee99
(16,113 posts)Assessment of what they should know shouldnt be a big deal. My issue is that if they went 4 years (or maybe more) without professors questioning their integrity, is it right to question it now? And if so, why only THESE students? Their parents may have committed fraud, should you test any students whose parents committed any fraud? They may not have gotten into the school based on their own merits, should you test any student who may not have gotten in on their own merits (legacy students, big donor children, celebrities) just to make sure they also did their own work? If the kids are off working somewhere or in grad school, do you make them come back to test or threaten to revoke their degree, based on the idea that they could possibly have cheated, without any actual evidence of it?
As for the DACA comparison, the reason I think it was an effective analogy was because you seemed very black and white on whether people should benefit from illegal activity, and after I brought up a clearly more sympathetic situation, you seemed to move to more of a gray area. I get it, and I agree that its much easier justify DACA, but again, I dont believe in punishing someone for actions that are out of their control. I dont think if you dont have evidence that the student, personally, lied or cheated, you should punish them just in case. And in the end, if you argue that a student can cheat their way to a 4 year degree at a big time university and no one will catch him, youve got a much, MUCH bigger integrity problem than a few dozen parents who cheated the admissions system.