The Awful Truth: every President kills.

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6. Not true at all. I didn't say they SHOULD kill in our name.

I'm saying no President has the privilege of NOT killing in our name, because America is what it is, not our high-minded rhetoric about what it should be. Every President has killed. Whig, Dem, or Republican.

Innocents will always die in military actions; that's why we shouldn't recklessly engage in them. The Iraq War was a War Crime, pure and simple, and we are all accountable as Americans. So were our actions in Grenada and Panama. We need to collectively WTFU as to who we actually are as a nation and how we act on the planet, and drop the bullshit.

You're correct that none of my family will be collateral damage in America's foreign wars. Omar's family is, both from American drones, but also from the Shabab.

How do we act ethically in the world? How do we stop those killing innocents without more killing?