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PatrickforO

(14,574 posts)
47. Based on past performance, I would suggest Bernie would not.
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 02:58 AM
Feb 2019

If he runs as a Democrat and loses, he will, like he did in 2016, ask his supporters to support the Democratic nominee and will work himself to support that nominee in the general election.

Seems to me that we have to judge the likelihood of this happening by past behavior, and past behavior was not what you suggest.

As to your statement that Bernie 'is just that kind of guy,' with all due respect to you, I'm not seeing that kind of behavior from him. '16 was a bloody, ugly primary, and we were clearly on opposite sides. But I assure you I supported and voted for Clinton in the general election. I didn't need Bernie to tell me to do it, either.

Thing is, Bernie's platform was GOOD. It would genuinely have made life a whole lot better for most Americans. I'm on the Democratic platform committee in my county, and I very much appreciated how the Bernie campaign made its deal to help shape the Democratic Party Platform in 2016.

Warren is another one who is extremely solid on policy. You can look on other posts I've made about her August 2018 'Accountable Capitalism Act.' Of course, it won't be touched while Republicans are in any kind of power, but this act would solve many, many problems because it gets at the root cause of wealth inequity, the shock doctrine, busted unions, stagnant wages and continued high carbon emissions/human-caused global warming. It does this by overturning the primacy of the shareholder doctrine and expanding fiduciary responsibility of CEOs in publicly held companies to include the welfare of workers, consumers and the environment. It also allows workers representation on Boards of Directors. As I say, this would solve so many problems it isn't even funny. Warren is great.

This time, we have a really strong bench of candidates. It isn't just Bernie and Hillary as the only really strong candidates. There are a bunch - I like Harris, though she's a bit weak on monetary and fiscal policy. I like Cory Booker, though his opponents will try and paint him with the Wall Street brush. I like Sherrod Brown, though I haven't done any in-depth research on him yet. And, I like Klobuchar though she's a bit to my right.

I won't be supporting Gillibrand because she led the charge against Al Franken, and I won't be supporting Biden because of his support of the 2005 bankruptcy laws, which essentially made my children and grandchildren (and yours) debt slaves if they had to take out loans for college. Can't get out of those, no matter what, and in the meantime Republicans have made all sorts of predatory lending possible, and those in delinquency tend to be minorities in poor areas who were tricked into taking out massive loans to attend expensive for-profit schools, and then who cannot get a job after, or remain underemployed after. The other issue on student debt is that the income-based payout allows the principle to actually GROW while the kids pay and pay and pay and pay. These earnings-based repayment plans are the ultimate in predatory capitalism. Exploiting our children for a few dollars profit.

Anyway, best wishes to you.

some people are team players, some people are not. takes all kinds nt msongs Feb 2019 #1
Bernie is a team player. Bleacher Creature Feb 2019 #14
+1 nt Fresh_Start Feb 2019 #57
Sanders is running as a Democrat, why? MontanaMama Feb 2019 #2
Because he wants access to OUR mailing list. Hekate Feb 2019 #4
+1 MontanaMama Feb 2019 #10
If it's not given to him, maybe he'll get it anyway? George II Feb 2019 #17
Sand pounding. Tha's an ole favorite. 😆 sprinkleeninow Feb 2019 #28
The Bernie Sanders Party should hold a Bernie Sanders Party primary... LuvLoogie Feb 2019 #3
HAHA.. But, we Still Got The Cha Feb 2019 #5
I can't even. LisaM Feb 2019 #6
Get ready for round 2 BannonsLiver Feb 2019 #7
lol Cha Feb 2019 #9
So are you saying they have alot in common with the rabid Trump supporters who believe the MAGA cstanleytech Feb 2019 #32
They're just another version of the same old thing: entitled white guys. Squinch Feb 2019 #8
Weaver sued the DNC for his own staff's misbehavior emulatorloo Feb 2019 #12
FYI, a day or two after that "breach" I, as a Democrat, began getting emails.... George II Feb 2019 #19
Yeah, that was curious. LisaM Feb 2019 #23
I even can't even either. 😡 sprinkleeninow Feb 2019 #29
That hot-headed ideologue (Weaver) is a big reason Bernie didn't win in 2016 emulatorloo Feb 2019 #11
Weaver is still going to be a "senior advisor" Cha Feb 2019 #38
What about Tad Devine? Is he still in the campaign? KitSileya Feb 2019 #51
I don't know what ol Tad is up to Cha Feb 2019 #52
Post removed Post removed Feb 2019 #13
Some people care more about themselves than democracy, the country, or our planet. Maru Kitteh Feb 2019 #15
"Don't expect email list to be shared with DNC" - so says our newest Democrat. George II Feb 2019 #16
Not going to get too worked up about something that might or might not happen bhikkhu Feb 2019 #18
It already happened. They refused to share a list that could have helped the D's win more races pnwmom Feb 2019 #22
Jeff Weaver is disgusting. highplainsdem Feb 2019 #20
Not to mention Tad Devine, XXXXXX's business partner. George II Feb 2019 #24
I can't imagine why. CentralMass Feb 2019 #21
Nor can I. George II Feb 2019 #25
Yes. Many would say they had a profound impact on his campaign. That was so nice of them. CentralMass Feb 2019 #27
The Democratic Party WON the BLUE WAVE Cha Feb 2019 #34
This behavior by sanders is divisive and doesn't help defeat trump. lancelyons Feb 2019 #26
The venemous attacks on Sanders is what is devisive. Sanders announced and by mid day 120,00 of his CentralMass Feb 2019 #30
Really? Venomous? Your word, not mine. Hekate Feb 2019 #31
So the DNC is supposed to help Bernie, but he gives R B Garr Feb 2019 #35
First if all, it was a former campaign official that made the comment. I have no idea what Bernie CentralMass Feb 2019 #41
They're not biased against Democrats. SergeStorms Feb 2019 #42
Based on past performance, I would suggest Bernie would not. PatrickforO Feb 2019 #47
Nothing has happened with the superdelegate system, R B Garr Feb 2019 #44
My distrust of the DNC and who is running are not linked. CentralMass Feb 2019 #50
When is the last time supers came into play? MrGrieves Feb 2019 #55
No, BS is the one who is "Divisive" by his own words. Cha Feb 2019 #36
If he wants the benefits of the Dem. Party, but doesn't honor the duties toward it... Honeycombe8 Feb 2019 #39
It's almost as if Bernie supports "Right to Work" legislation maxrandb Feb 2019 #54
+1000 SergeStorms Feb 2019 #59
i really hope jeff weaver has no place in this next run Tiggeroshii Feb 2019 #33
Weaver is still going to be "senior advisor".. Cha Feb 2019 #37
eww Tiggeroshii Feb 2019 #40
You all know I was a big Bernie supporter in 2016. PatrickforO Feb 2019 #43
Hillary donated her email list to the party in 2016 but Bernie refused to. pnwmom Feb 2019 #46
He should have. I wouldn't mind at all. PatrickforO Feb 2019 #48
Got an email from Bernie today..... KY_EnviroGuy Feb 2019 #45
and you wonder why some of us hate him n/t Hamlette Feb 2019 #49
Nice... bernie can crap on the dem party and if we bitch about him we get censored Fullduplexxx Feb 2019 #53
KICK! Cha Feb 2019 #56
Of course not! Adrahil Feb 2019 #58
Is this consistent with the DNC rules and oath that sanders has to sign? Gothmog Feb 2019 #60
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