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AdamGG

(1,295 posts)
92. I consider myself a Democrat but register Independent because Massachusetts is an open primary state
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:20 AM
Feb 2019

I think that's the most effective position to take, in my situation. In years like 2000, when I didn't have a strong preference between Al Gore & Bill Bradley, it allowed me to vote in the Republican primary for John McCain against George Bush (the pre Sarah Palin, Jerry Falwell is an agent of intolerance, refuse to speak at Bob Jones Univ. John McCain). McCain beat Bush 75/25 in that primary because of all the Democrats who crossed over.

Being registered as an independent allowed me to vote in the Republican primary for Bill Weld as governor and help assure that he was the nominee instead of the pro-life candidate that was the alternative.

In general elections, I've voted for every Democratic Presidential nominee since 1988 (first time I voted), but I think it can be smart to retain the added leverage of being an independent. People here often fault Bernie Sanders for this, but so long as he caucuses with the Senate Democrats to add to their number and has a voting record that's consistent with Democratic Party values, I don't have a problem with it.

There's a long tradition of politicians from northern New England doing this and people rarely give Angus King shit about it. Bernie has just hit a nerve by running against Hillary in 2016. He endorsed her when the primaries were over and was unambiguous about what a nightmare Trump was, and I'm not sure it's fair that he gets the blame for the Susan Sarandons out there, who refused to coalesce behind Hillary.

Nah, I'm only going to use them when it serves my needs and I can get their mailing lists. NightWatcher Feb 2019 #1
No... nope nope nope... got to join the club first Peacetrain Feb 2019 #2
What if I join for a couple of weeks and after I lose, I go back to being Independent? NightWatcher Feb 2019 #5
My greatest fear! Peacetrain Feb 2019 #9
Based on what, the fact that he did it last time? ... Or NightWatcher Feb 2019 #11
That also! I do not want to have to try and make sense Peacetrain Feb 2019 #20
"Ego is a hell of a drug" Maru Kitteh Feb 2019 #23
Don't forget money nt Apollyonus Feb 2019 #73
Very well said nt Apollyonus Feb 2019 #65
Spot on. cwydro Feb 2019 #19
Only if you complain about the DNC rigging it for treestar Feb 2019 #55
Win Or Lose No Diff Me. Feb 2019 #103
Never Bernie agingdem Feb 2019 #36
Ditto onetexan Feb 2019 #54
If they don't the damage might be worse exboyfil Feb 2019 #61
he can run as whatever, just not on the Dems ticket. He ended up splitting us anyway so what does it onetexan Feb 2019 #64
My signature line says it all nt Apollyonus Feb 2019 #68
bernie is NOT A DEMOCRAT!!! if he changes just to run .... that is just opportunistic. trueblue2007 Feb 2019 #136
Bazinga! George II Feb 2019 #6
Proud Member of the Democratic Party DownriverDem Feb 2019 #84
I am a member of the Democratic Party... teamster633 Feb 2019 #3
Yep... the stakes are too high.. we have to all be on the same train pulling in the same direction Peacetrain Feb 2019 #7
In a low-stakes election with one or two other candidates, sure, Bernie. forgotmylogin Feb 2019 #71
I am, and I've been a Democrat OFFICIALLY since 1972. And I've run for (minor) office... George II Feb 2019 #4
72... same as me Peacetrain Feb 2019 #8
Life long Democrat since 18 year olds got the right to livetohike Feb 2019 #10
I was in that first "class" of under 21 voters, too. George II Feb 2019 #13
George McGovern was a good man Taraman Feb 2019 #14
Yes he was. I enthusiastically supported him. I was a livetohike Feb 2019 #25
First campaign I worked on Bradshaw3 Feb 2019 #101
What's to stop him from leaving the party if he wins? PTWB Feb 2019 #12
I don't think we'll have to worry about the second half of your question. George II Feb 2019 #16
Yep 4139 Feb 2019 #58
The DNC has instituted a rule that says you must agree to run as a Dem in the GE ehrnst Feb 2019 #106
So let's say he agrees with that.. PTWB Feb 2019 #116
I'm a local Democratic committee member Danmel Feb 2019 #15
Yep Peacetrain Feb 2019 #17
I am a member of the Democratic Party . stonecutter357 Feb 2019 #18
I am a Democrat. I support DEMOCRATS - not people who want to use our party every 4 years. Maru Kitteh Feb 2019 #21
He is an entrenched career politician who has been doing this for decades. WeekiWater Feb 2019 #22
His base is a weapon that will be exploited by Russia. Again. Maru Kitteh Feb 2019 #26
Not difficult to do. WeekiWater Feb 2019 #35
Yup. They're very easy targets, and demonstrated that clearly. Maru Kitteh Feb 2019 #39
At least 10% of that base embraced that explotation, however, California has moved its still_one Feb 2019 #38
It's early, but Harris really has the greatest share of my attention and interest thus far. Maru Kitteh Feb 2019 #48
We are on the same page Maru. still_one Feb 2019 #50
Been a registered Democrat since 1972 and very glad to see Senator Sanders running. jalan48 Feb 2019 #24
Me too. Although I switched to the Democratic Party in 2014, from being an Independent. nt CozyMystery Feb 2019 #29
I've always been a Democrat through good times and bad. jalan48 Feb 2019 #30
Same here Same year. Doesn't concern me that Senator Sanders is running. SammyWinstonJack Feb 2019 #43
It's really about differences in ideas. Some seem very afraid that Bernie's ideas are jalan48 Feb 2019 #46
"Given a platform?" ehrnst Feb 2019 #62
Debates require give and take unlike the formats you mention. It's a great way for voters to jalan48 Feb 2019 #66
To a small extent. The more candidates, the less time for any real ehrnst Feb 2019 #78
I would prefer the old Lincoln/Douglas style debate myself without a moderator asking the questions jalan48 Feb 2019 #83
In early 2008, the Kaiser Family Foundation hosted a forum for each candidate ehrnst Feb 2019 #94
I like this approach. It gives the voter a much better idea where the candidate stands. Our current jalan48 Feb 2019 #99
I've been a democrat since 2010 ZeroSomeBrains Feb 2019 #89
I just hope the DNC learned a lesson from the last election. walkingman Feb 2019 #27
SO MUCH THIS. Maru Kitteh Feb 2019 #51
If your running for this party samplegirl Feb 2019 #28
Well said!!! still_one Feb 2019 #31
Do not wait for me! True Blue American Feb 2019 #32
Bernie already qualified last year. The Truth Is Here Feb 2019 #33
You mean he released his 2016 tax returns? Maru Kitteh Feb 2019 #49
He won the Democratic slot of his U.S. Senate. The Truth Is Here Feb 2019 #97
He should stay in the Senate. Maru Kitteh Feb 2019 #100
I disagree The Truth Is Here Feb 2019 #104
No other Democratic primary candidate in VT can get funding or endorsement by ehrnst Feb 2019 #108
Hey at least we have Jon Tester in Montana - and he did kick Trump's butt in a Trump state Maru Kitteh Feb 2019 #115
That was in a state ranked 49th with respect to population, and is 95% Caucasian. George II Feb 2019 #121
Sorry, BS is too divisive. Cha Feb 2019 #140
Financial transparency is going to be a major issue in 2020 ehrnst Feb 2019 #112
I don't think Bernie will have any issues showing tax returns. The Truth Is Here Feb 2019 #113
No one doubts that Bernie is human, like you and me. ehrnst Feb 2019 #114
A single year, and not the most recent at the time. ehrnst Feb 2019 #119
He and Jane promised to release their 2015 return, then released their 2014 return, twice... George II Feb 2019 #120
What "is done?" ehrnst Feb 2019 #117
No he didn't, and no it isn't. George II Feb 2019 #122
So what's your bloody problem with Bernie? The Truth Is Here Feb 2019 #124
Sanders won the Democratic primary last year and the next day renounced his Democratic affiliation. George II Feb 2019 #126
You know all that, but didn't know that HRC released 10 years of taxes? ehrnst Feb 2019 #130
Join the Democratic Party, as per the requirements: ehrnst Feb 2019 #131
Ah, the "it's his turn..." routine. LanternWaste Feb 2019 #127
Why do we allow a non-democrat to run for the nomination of our party when KewlKat Feb 2019 #34
I have seen this movie before... louis c Feb 2019 #37
I voted for Bernie in the Primary and later regretted it. Zoonart Feb 2019 #44
The only way we lose in 2020 is if we fight among ourselves. watoos Feb 2019 #40
AGREE! SammyWinstonJack Feb 2019 #45
So we don't get to have a primary? Sanders has been annointed? LongtimeAZDem Feb 2019 #56
To be uncharacteristically positive, I'd say... JaneQPublic Feb 2019 #88
I've been a registered democrat since I turned 21 way back in 1957. justhanginon Feb 2019 #41
+∞ LongtimeAZDem Feb 2019 #75
K&R mcar Feb 2019 #42
Yep. Been a local Democratic Committee member for 6 years. I support what Democrats fight for Tom Rinaldo Feb 2019 #47
Tom I agree 100% sellitman Feb 2019 #133
Yes I am. I'm also one of over 13 million who voted for and supported the Senator from Vermont in CentralMass Feb 2019 #52
Yes. Registered as a Democrat. treestar Feb 2019 #53
Yes, indeed and proud of it. honest.abe Feb 2019 #57
Registered Democrat here since I was 18 revmclaren Feb 2019 #59
Why join when we let him use our structure redstatebluegirl Feb 2019 #60
I will be so pissed lillypaddle Feb 2019 #63
Exactly, it makes it so obvious who actually "rigged" R B Garr Feb 2019 #111
Dilettante Democrat. We're too impure for him most of the time. IADEMO2004 Feb 2019 #67
THIS! redstatebluegirl Feb 2019 #69
Why is a Bernie campaign needed when we already have Elizabeth Warren? JaneQPublic Feb 2019 #70
Because Bernie got addicted to the attention. redstatebluegirl Feb 2019 #81
Yep. (nt) ehrnst Feb 2019 #102
Exactly so. Paladin Feb 2019 #110
I'm for who ever wins the Democratic nomination. safeinOhio Feb 2019 #72
Such a statement would have been unthinkable a few years ago IronLionZion Feb 2019 #74
AGREE! No (D) following the name DirtEdonE Feb 2019 #76
I am proudly a member of the Democratic party. CaptainTruth Feb 2019 #77
Apparently he can because hs is. pdsimdars Feb 2019 #79
Sure, but I don't care if our nominee is or isn't if he or she is the best choice to lead us. aikoaiko Feb 2019 #80
100% n/t radical noodle Feb 2019 #82
Sorry Roy Rolling Feb 2019 #85
That old canard does not work! Peacetrain Feb 2019 #86
"I am not a member of any organized political party. I am a Democrat." -- Will Rogers VOX Feb 2019 #90
"Purity?" ehrnst Feb 2019 #95
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2019 #87
First post here at DU. Really? KPN Feb 2019 #91
This is DEMOCRATIC Underground, not Bernie Underground. VOX Feb 2019 #96
I consider myself a Democrat but register Independent because Massachusetts is an open primary state AdamGG Feb 2019 #92
I am a member of the Democratic Party Gothmog Feb 2019 #93
My state doesn't have partisan registration ibegurpard Feb 2019 #98
I voted for Bernie in the NY primary even as I knew I would support Hillary in November. Marcuse Feb 2019 #105
Only since 1972.... akraven Feb 2019 #107
Proud lifelong Democrat, the "black sheep" of an all-Republican family. VOX Feb 2019 #109
Actually, I'm not. Iggo Feb 2019 #118
Long family tradition DFW Feb 2019 #123
I was NPA for a long time. WeekiWater Feb 2019 #125
No I'm not, but I always vote for and support Democrats and Progressives. nt Autumn Feb 2019 #128
Yes, since 1960, when I was just a teenager. MineralMan Feb 2019 #129
We don't register by party in my state. But I've voted for ONLY Democrats since lilactime Feb 2019 #132
Nope. Ms. Toad Feb 2019 #134
Not on paper loyalsister Feb 2019 #135
K&R Scurrilous Feb 2019 #137
I don't have to declare a party membership in MO. Gore1FL Feb 2019 #138
Thanks for the JCapehart Tweet, Peacetrain! Cha Feb 2019 #139
Hey Cha!! Peacetrain Feb 2019 #141
Aloha, Peacetrain! Cha Feb 2019 #142
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