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T_i_B

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50. My MP is one of those quitting Labour
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 03:23 PM
Feb 2019

Last edited Mon Feb 18, 2019, 04:50 PM - Edit history (1)

I live in Penistone & Stocksbridge, so my MP is Angela Smith.

She's been one of the very few Labour MP's who've been any good on the disastrous project to leave the EU. However, she's a staunch Blairite, firmly on the right wing of Labour. She's pro-fracking and has links to the water industry. Angela Smith has been openly critical of Corbyn and Momentum, which has lead to her getting a vote of no confidence from Penistone & Stocksbridge CLP.


I fully sympathise with her decision to quit Labour. That party is a total mess. However, she's already made a gaffe about people with a "funny tinge" which has been seized on by Corbynites. She's also very tribal indeed and is known for being personally vitriolic towards members ofthe UK's established centrist party (the Liberal Democrats) which will no doubt cause her problems further down the line because the new Independent Group needs all the allies it can get.

Interestingly, it seems that her husband is staying in Labour (despite being as right wing and anti-Corbyn / Momentum as she is) and is up for re-election to Sheffield Council in May. That could be very awkward indeed for all concerned as the Liberal Democrats are targeting that ward.

I'm in Wales right now. Planning my day and watching. cwydro Feb 2019 #1
You're hardly going to the game on Saturday ? OnDoutside Feb 2019 #8
I'll be in Ireland by Saturday. cwydro Feb 2019 #11
5.45pm Kick off, so a perfect time on Saturday Evening ! Hopefully you will get a better result OnDoutside Feb 2019 #13
Always a blast to watch in a pub. cwydro Feb 2019 #17
I was in Galway/Westport in September.... mitch96 Feb 2019 #36
I really like Westport, though I don't get up that direction often enough. There are only two OnDoutside Feb 2019 #66
Hmmmmmmm malaise Feb 2019 #2
Yes, they would be centre-right of the Labour Party, Luciana Berger was once a girlfriend of Blair's OnDoutside Feb 2019 #5
Soubry will be next I think Soph0571 Feb 2019 #19
I hope she is, but we'll see. There is a definite opportunity for a centrist party to take hold but OnDoutside Feb 2019 #22
I don't understand the constant hate on Corbyn ZeroSomeBrains Feb 2019 #28
Corbyn is like B. Sanders... Adrahil Feb 2019 #29
Staunch Blairites T_i_B Feb 2019 #44
Interesting and disappointing malaise Feb 2019 #48
I've seen them referred to as "Red Tories." n/t QC Feb 2019 #64
According to Momentum supporters... T_i_B Feb 2019 #65
Who do you think would be a decent leader instead of Corbyn? n/t QC Feb 2019 #67
David Lammy T_i_B Feb 2019 #68
Lammy's record looks interesting here -- QC Feb 2019 #69
Well one, Angela Smith, supports water privatization and thinks some people have a "funny tinge." suffragette Feb 2019 #61
Angela Smith's views on water nationalisation T_i_B Feb 2019 #63
Yikes, pro-fracking, too. Just really reading up on events today and trying to understand it. suffragette Feb 2019 #71
This is an old coal mining area T_i_B Feb 2019 #72
Thanks for the links. It must be so frustrating to keep ending up with pro-fracking elected suffragette Feb 2019 #73
Remainers which compose at least octoberlib Feb 2019 #3
This is so true lamsmy Feb 2019 #9
Labour will not succeed until Corbyn goes. RandySF Feb 2019 #4
He's old school, and not in a good way. Hardline, resistant to change, believes what he believes... OnDoutside Feb 2019 #6
Would that be Sanders? smirkymonkey Feb 2019 #49
He is not progressive at all - unless you call living in 1973 progressive? Soph0571 Feb 2019 #20
I agree. Regressive/reactionary populists on the left are not progressives. CrossingTheRubicon Feb 2019 #47
Fuck Jeremy Corbyn JI7 Feb 2019 #7
Umunna says they whole-heartedly support the People's Vote campaign. OnDoutside Feb 2019 #10
Sooner or later they will have to form an alliance with the Liberal Democrats T_i_B Feb 2019 #45
It will be a while yet. There's an awful lot of bitterness still, and OnDoutside Feb 2019 #51
Oh, Blairites and Lib Dems have disliked each other for some time T_i_B Feb 2019 #52
True, though I think the bigger reckoning is between the Tory factions. OnDoutside Feb 2019 #54
Again... T_i_B Feb 2019 #56
People have a tendency to start lighting sh*t on fire when the government stops listening pecosbob Feb 2019 #12
I'm afraid that the USA is heading in that direction. pazzyanne Feb 2019 #14
I believe the US is in a better position, with the Democratic Party holding up strong. Both main OnDoutside Feb 2019 #15
Sad part is it didn't just start with this administration in the U.S. pecosbob Feb 2019 #18
The biggest issue in all that is the watering down of regulation, which when attacked by capitalism, OnDoutside Feb 2019 #21
This isn't even the government that's not listening T_i_B Feb 2019 #46
The youth wing of the UK Labour Party has tweeted its reaction...... OnDoutside Feb 2019 #16
This is why I never, ever, EVER... Blue_Tires Feb 2019 #23
We should forget the curious circumstances of how he got elected in the first place OnDoutside Feb 2019 #24
Incredible that the Tories are a disaster & labour bronxiteforever Feb 2019 #25
We may have Trump NewJeffCT Feb 2019 #39
Agree. We are in much better shape. bronxiteforever Feb 2019 #59
Interesting to see so many people here siding with conservatives. QC Feb 2019 #26
Maybe do to his long history of antisemitism. nycbos Feb 2019 #38
Politics is more than just picking a winning side theboss Feb 2019 #62
It always seems to be a proxy war between factions of the left ZeroSomeBrains Feb 2019 #70
Weakening the opposition party to Conservatives is SO SMART....for conservatives. they saw how it beachbum bob Feb 2019 #27
Except Corbyn is pro-Brexit too... Adrahil Feb 2019 #30
labor should replace him, he has no magical hold on the position beachbum bob Feb 2019 #31
EXACTLY. Adrahil Feb 2019 #32
Labour did better in 2017 than in 2015 muriel_volestrangler Feb 2019 #34
That was before Corbyn decided to betray Labour voters. Adrahil Feb 2019 #40
And before the anti-semitism issue grew and grew. Byronic Feb 2019 #41
Yup. NT Adrahil Feb 2019 #42
There is a cautionary tale in this for our politics. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2019 #33
It's like being a passenger on the Titanic and seeing the Iceberg before everyone else... Javaman Feb 2019 #35
If I was a citizen of the UK I would't have a political home. nycbos Feb 2019 #37
Exactly. Byronic Feb 2019 #43
Corbyn has always been pro IRA, pro PLO etc and anti state of Israel. OnDoutside Feb 2019 #53
Yes, he has Byronic Feb 2019 #55
My MP is one of those quitting Labour T_i_B Feb 2019 #50
Yes indeed Byronic Feb 2019 #57
She apologized quickly T_i_B Feb 2019 #58
Jeremy Corbyn supporters celebrate emergence of new thing to blame for his lack of success T_i_B Feb 2019 #60
And then there were eight... T_i_B Feb 2019 #74
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