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pbmus

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Fri Feb 15, 2019, 10:28 PM Feb 2019

The real reason Manafort willing to serve 24 years... [View all]

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1067299686099238913.html

Thread) About Manafort

My guess: He's not reckless, and he isn't stupid enough to think a pardon will save him.

So why can't he tell the truth?

I think it's helpful to remember a few things about the nature of the criminal enterprise.

1/ Trump and Manafort are not the top of the international criminal enterprise.

In a 1-27-2011 lecture—given while Mueller was FBI director—he talked about a new kind of organized crime threatening the US.

Today’s mobsters have gone international.
The Evolving Organized Crime Threat
Citizens Crime Commission of New York
https://archives.fbi.gov/archives/news/speeches/the-evolving-organized-crime-threat
2/ They're “iron triangles” consisting of (1) organized criminals (2) corrupt government official, and (3) business leaders.

And they pose a signifiant security threat.

They're also cornering the international market on natural gas & oil (which explains climate change denial).
3/ They infiltrate US businesses, and try to manipulate people at the highest levels of government.

Motivated by greed, they sell to the highest bidder and will stop at nothing to make money.
4/ Mueller explained that by 2011, the FBI was developing a long-term strategy for dismantling these enterprises, including Threat Focus Cells to target mobsters like Semion Mogilevich—who he said was on the FBI's Ten Most Wanted list.
4/ Mogilevich— “Russia’s top crime boss”—has ties to Trump Tower.👇

Mogilevich’s operative David Bogatin bought 5 condos in Trump Tower for $6 million cash. 1,300 Trump-branded condos were sold in all cash purchases to anonymous shell companies.
Understanding Trump vs. Bruce Ohr: Think Russia’s top crime boss, Semion Mogilevich
Amidst President Donald Trump’s ongoing threats to revoke security clearances from various critics, perhaps the most mysterious person on his enemy
https://www.justsecurity.org/60528/understanding-pres-trump-vs-bruce-ohr-russias-top-crime-boss-semion-mogilevich/
5/ Mogilevich got rich stealing from Russians and scamming Americans. He's also one of Russia's most powerful oligarchs.

Russian oligarchs, don't forget, are Manafort's buddies and clients.

From Manafort's guilty plea:
Document: Superseding Criminal Information Against Paul Manafort
The special counsel's office has filed a superseding criminal information in the case against Paul Manafort. The document is available here and below. The plea agreement and statement of offense are …
https://www.lawfareblog.com/document-superseding-criminal-information-against-paul-manafort
6/ Manafort conspired with Gates and Konstantin Kilimnik to act (and acted) as an agent of the Government of Ukraine, the Party of Regions—the pro-Putin party—between at least 2006 and 2015.

Kilimnik is another Russian oligarch. Manafort's buddy.
7/ We all know what happens to people who rat on Russian oligarchs—and do their families. I never believed Manafort, who cares about his family, was really going to rat on his Russian buddies.

But Mueller is confident Manafort is lying, which means Mueller knows the truth.
8/ And Mueller is after something bigger (and more dangerous) than either Manafort or Trump.
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Yep. WheelWalker Feb 2019 #1
I'm honestly surprised Manafort is still sentient. 50 Shades Of Blue Feb 2019 #2
Does sentient mean alive? PeeJ52 Feb 2019 #10
It means not brain dead from a special Russian cocktail... 50 Shades Of Blue Feb 2019 #13
Recommended. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #3
So trump is just a poor victim? Hoyt Feb 2019 #4
No, just a greedy fucking real estate whore...part time reality show actor pbmus Feb 2019 #8
+111111! KPN Feb 2019 #24
K&R. n/t ms liberty Feb 2019 #5
Yep! FM123 Feb 2019 #6
In Conspiracies this Far-Reaching, There is Always More to the Story dlk Feb 2019 #7
Okay, given what Manafort probably knows, Dan Feb 2019 #12
The FBI.gov link in the thread Kitchari Feb 2019 #9
Exactly....and Welcome to DU pbmus Feb 2019 #11
Thanks, pbmus! Kitchari Feb 2019 #17
Does anyone have a link to Mueller's speech on video? MelissaB Feb 2019 #14
I think this is the Mueller speech mentioned here. Lonestarblue Feb 2019 #18
Yes, that's the speech. I'm looking for the video. MelissaB Feb 2019 #25
K & R mac56 Feb 2019 #15
looks like GOPer elixir Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2019 #16
#MoscowMitch and the #Russiapublicans - Traitors to America Achilleaze Feb 2019 #37
Deripaska and the Senate Russiapublicans are best buddies (nt) Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2019 #38
they need to put trump on suicide watch certainot Feb 2019 #19
Or provide the cyanide liberaltrucker Feb 2019 #27
he has stories to tell certainot Feb 2019 #31
Holy crap, I'm 4 tweets in and both relieved and terrified. zaj Feb 2019 #20
So what happens if the take-down is successful? Mme. Defarge Feb 2019 #21
K&R orangecrush Feb 2019 #22
KICK bluestarone Feb 2019 #23
Let's not get too conspiratorial. Manafort-Putin is enough. sharedvalues Feb 2019 #26
As much of a squirel Manaforts is, I think it was threats to his family that makes him want to do it world wide wally Feb 2019 #28
corrupt government official McConnell LiberalFighter Feb 2019 #29
Putin Is The Don RAAD2 Feb 2019 #30
I would say so.. who's the whipped one Cha Feb 2019 #34
What are the chances Manafort is doing both...lying for show and cooperating with wiggs Feb 2019 #32
He must have had MFM008 Feb 2019 #33
IMO, our MSM has not delved enough into transnational crime (and trump's role in it). Most Nevermypresident Feb 2019 #35
US media needs to get off their knees and tell these stories Achilleaze Feb 2019 #36
The weakest link (in the defense against such gangs) is corruption of Govt. officials / bureaucrats. BSdetect Feb 2019 #39
Right on. And the lack of conflict of interest rules for Congress and the Supremes plays right into JudyM Feb 2019 #40
We are SO god damned fortunate Al Franken caught Sessions in... Pluvious Feb 2019 #41
K & R bookmarking FakeNoose Feb 2019 #42
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