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PandoraAwakened

(905 posts)
18. Actually...
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 11:35 PM
Oct 2018

Per the U.S. Election Assistance Commission (and many other sources where you can find this info.), early ballot voting for Arizona is around 75%, not 90% as you say.

As of this very moment, the AZ Secretary of State's online Early Ballot Dashboard, which is updated daily, shows only 204,889 early ballots in as of 10-18-18 (8 days after ballots were sent out). The total number of Arizonans casting votes in the 2016 General Election was 2,661,497 (per the state's SOS office) or 2,722,660 (per the federal EAC), whichever one you choose to believe. The larger point being, this means there's a lot of Early Ballots yet to come for 2018 to reach the 75% achieved in the past.

I'm curious whether you have a source you can cite for your belief that early ballots here are cast "in the first 48 hours" and that "most people have voted." I'm just not aware of any studies having ever been conducted in Arizona that support those suppositions. I think it is especially important in today's fact-free political environment that we try our hardest to stick with the facts.

Additionally, it is actually a common mistake to correlate "early ballot voting" with actually occurring "early," at least the way it works in Arizona. For example, I'm on the Permanent Early Ballot List in Arizona. Now, I certainly have the option to mail that ballot in anytime after I've received it. However, in the last General Election, I simply dropped it off on election day at my designated polling site. The benefit in having the Early Ballot is that I don't have to wait in any lines at the polling site. I just walk up and drop it in. In and out in about 2 minutes. I could have, of course, also done this at any one of a number of designated drop points on any day up to the election. Or, I could have mailed it in. The primary point here for Arizona is that just because it's labeled "early" doesn't mean it has to get there early.

Another benefit to having the Early Ballot is to give yourself the opportunity to research everything, before returning it by whatever means and on whatever day all the way up to the election. In Arizona, we always have a ton of judges on the ballot up for Yes/No retainer (51 this time around!) and the ballot gives no indication of their political parties, i.e. their judicial ideology, so you have to look all that up. There are also a number of other "nonpartisan positions" on the ballot relative to elected water conservation and school officials, etc. Plus, there's always the deceptively written "Propositions" (5 on this particular ballot) and the never-ending local bond proposals because the state budget is so in-the-hole that this is the only way towns can stay afloat.

I read somewhere a few years ago that the sheer size of our General Elections Ballot is one of the primary reasons for the uptick in Early Ballot requests. There's no way you're going to remember all that going at it cold in the voting booth! And this I do not know for a fact---it is pure speculation on my part---but I suspect that anyone who is mailing their ballot back within 48 hours is just marking the partisan part of it and maybe a couple of propositions they've heard about and to hell with the rest of it.

Finally, former9thward, I do agree with the first part of your post inasmuch as "you go where you can get the most votes" in a senate race. That only proves my point even more that this stunt occurring tomorrow has nothing whatsoever to do with McSally. The majority of Rethuglican CD 5 voters are already a lock. There is no expanding the Rethuglican base in this district nor any need to nudge them to the polls. They were always going to vote for both Biggs and McSally whether tRump showed his face in their district or not.

Where tRump needed to go to in Arizona was one of any of several other districts having a sizable non-LDS Rethuglican base where half of them are so disheartened that they're either looking to just sit this one out or actually flip their party vote. Oh well, too bad, so sad for tRump. He got played bigly by Biggs!






Terrific wakeup call...for AZ.....thank you....I will let the AZ younger do their part.. asiliveandbreathe Oct 2018 #1
Great idea! Yes, crash the ticket website using Jamal's name! PandoraAwakened Oct 2018 #4
I prefer longer posts. A few sentences can't give necessary background info bobbieinok Oct 2018 #31
I agree bobbieinok PandoraAwakened Oct 2018 #39
Do you have a link? Thanks bobbieinok Oct 2018 #41
Oops..forgot to paste the link PandoraAwakened Oct 2018 #44
The whiney republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief is a crybaby coward Achilleaze Oct 2018 #2
Great artwork! PandoraAwakened Oct 2018 #5
google images is your friend (sort of) Achilleaze Oct 2018 #8
lol! OriginalGeek Oct 2018 #14
Thanks for the view into AZ, Pandora. What they've done to Hortensis Oct 2018 #3
Re: AZ Education, IAR location, Mesa Police, and Andy Biggs PandoraAwakened Oct 2018 #9
Not that different from Georgia, except not an LDS stronghold. Hortensis Oct 2018 #12
K&R - but I might have to challenge on the scheduled start time. I think bullwinkle428 Oct 2018 #6
Point well taken --- 2 birds with 1 stone! n/t PandoraAwakened Oct 2018 #10
Knr voteearlyvoteoften Oct 2018 #7
smarter than Einstein, eh? NewJeffCT Oct 2018 #11
When he has to speak with real Americans, PandoraAwakened Oct 2018 #22
It would make total sense he has the rally in CD 5. former9thward Oct 2018 #13
Actually... PandoraAwakened Oct 2018 #18
I did elections for many years in AZ. former9thward Oct 2018 #19
Understood, BUT... PandoraAwakened Oct 2018 #23
Tick-tock PandoraAwakened Oct 2018 #45
Anyone in the area want to make an extra $100??? Vinca Oct 2018 #15
Its a fake ad. former9thward Oct 2018 #20
No, I didn't know that. I found it on the Craigslist site and didn't realize they would Vinca Oct 2018 #24
dead giveaway lapfog_1 Oct 2018 #26
He probably went there to play golf nmgaucho Oct 2018 #16
No doubt! PandoraAwakened Oct 2018 #38
These rallies aren't campaign rallies. Initech Oct 2018 #17
Funny you should mention that... PandoraAwakened Oct 2018 #27
Well hey keep it up! Initech Oct 2018 #29
Thanks for this informative OP. oasis Oct 2018 #21
Your welcome, and thanks for the K&R n/t PandoraAwakened Oct 2018 #25
there's a tweet for every occassion mercuryblues Oct 2018 #28
Of course he said that, amyrite? PandoraAwakened Oct 2018 #34
Not knowing the age of you son mercuryblues Oct 2018 #35
No doubt---already had the "no more rushing in" talk with him PandoraAwakened Oct 2018 #36
Everyone who has a POS congress person needs to put mikeysnot Oct 2018 #30
Thanks mikeysnot! PandoraAwakened Oct 2018 #33
Thanks for this info. Wellstone ruled Oct 2018 #32
So I went there yesterday PandoraAwakened Oct 2018 #40
The Independent Registering started Wellstone ruled Oct 2018 #43
Welcome to DU, PandoraAwakened! calimary Oct 2018 #37
Thanks for welcoming me to DU, calimary PandoraAwakened Oct 2018 #42
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