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ismnotwasm

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14. Moore doesn't make me uncomfortable. He annoys me
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 12:19 PM
Sep 2018

Last edited Sun Sep 23, 2018, 01:44 PM - Edit history (1)

He tends to feed conspiracy theories. The way our government is set up is around two parties, the only real question is which two parties. It is possible for instance, for Democratic Socialists to become one of the major parties instead of Democrats. That doesn’t mean the Democratic Party would cease to exist, any more than The DS party is going to. That’s one thing.

I have a problem with the term “corporate” when it’s now a huge meme that people use. When memes were put forth about Hillary Clinton and her large donations coming from, oh, I don’t know Bank of something, and people would point out “”hey, it’s illegal for Bank of something to donate that amount to political campaigns, these represent donations from individuals, the reply would be “Hillary is corrupt and this meme proves it” So annoying at the time and so fucking damaging. This was in part what brought us Trump. But there are many parts to the Trump story.

Bernie was indeed pushing hard for the individual campaign donations, refusing PAC money, (as did President Obama, who started this trend started refusing a lot of PAC money in 2008, but he rarely gets credit) but Bernie also lost, and he lost legitimately, no matter what the Micheal Moore’s of the world have to say. That’s not to say that others haven’t picked up where he left off. Booker and Harris and Gillibrand, for instance, are now declining corporate PAC money. If nothing else President Obama and Bernie Sanders put their finger on a pulse of rising discontent.

So what does this mean? Are we going to quit throwing pageantry parties? Are we going to pare down the governments frivolous bullshit after the gilded turd of Trumps presidency? Don’t know. All I DO know is my reproductive rights are being threatened, hell— the reproductive rights of my three year old granddaughter are being threatened, as a woman it is still implied that I’m a slut If I get sexually assaulted, LGBLT rights are being threatened, the United States kidnapped children and caused irreparable harm, and continues to defend this, our environment will become more poisoned, job wages are stagnant, hate crimes are on the rise, racism is now openly bragged about and I cannot look toward the Republican Party for the lest vestige of love for human kind. This is sheer horror, epic horror, and every toxic bullshit comment against Democrats and especially Hillary Clinton have their part as well.

“Legit” criticism—sure. I have a Rep I adore. I didn’t expect this, but I do She’s signed the “M4A” legislation which I disagree with, although I agree with Medicaid expansion and insurance reform
With a hearty public option. None of which we are going to get by the looks of thing now. PLENTY of people disagree with me here, and I understand completely.

(FWIW I take a bit of exception to using “white privilege” discussed among whites as a negative, as whites ARE the ones who need to be discussing this among themselves.)

In defence of Michael Moore... [View all] Fred Sanders Sep 2018 OP
A nuanced perspective ... thank you. theaocp Sep 2018 #1
"Every veil secretly desires to be lifted, except the veil of hypocrisy." Fred Sanders Sep 2018 #3
Because manor321 Sep 2018 #2
I agree, but some are defending Moore on this board weeks before the Midterms simply because Tom Rinaldo Sep 2018 #7
Better we simply wait until after the mid-terms! Fred Sanders Sep 2018 #11
Yep. And make sure that people are registered to vote! n/t Tom Rinaldo Sep 2018 #12
I don't believe that D's or Democratic leadership should be free of criticism, but there is a time hlthe2b Sep 2018 #4
I will always defend Michael Moore. GreenEyedLefty Sep 2018 #5
Thank you for that perspective. n/t Tom Rinaldo Sep 2018 #6
The economic anxiety theory has been thoroughly debunked. dalton99a Sep 2018 #8
Moore stated that many of the same people who voted for Obama voted for Trump. GreenEyedLefty Sep 2018 #15
obama lost support among many whites after he said black and brown JI7 Sep 2018 #17
Whether the voters were racist or not doesn't matter... SidDithers Sep 2018 #25
I agree.. the Rude Pundit is Dead ON.. I don't care how many Cha Sep 2018 #47
It's nice to have a home town friend, but no. His comments about why Dems lost in 16 were based Squinch Sep 2018 #9
You're the second poster on this thread to use the phrase "thoroughly debunked" GreenEyedLefty Sep 2018 #16
There are many articles if you search. betsuni Sep 2018 #44
Main Reason Racism / Second Reason Want For Economic Change PaulX2 Sep 2018 #56
What view, position or vote did Hillary change because of any donation or fee she received? betsuni Sep 2018 #58
how about the NRA ? JI7 Sep 2018 #59
no, 2nd reason wasn't economic change. Trump supporters were more wealthy plus they have voted for JI7 Sep 2018 #61
I have a feeling facts aren't going to matter here. betsuni Sep 2018 #62
"MM told us Trump was gonna win months in advance. No one listened." betsuni Sep 2018 #64
Moore did not tell follks Trump was gonna win months in advance. Gonna need a link! Fred Sanders Sep 2018 #69
Are you kidding? Gothmog Sep 2018 #40
Did you mean to respond to me? Because we are agreeing. Squinch Sep 2018 #63
Nah, some of us are just tired of the schtick BannonsLiver Sep 2018 #10
With you on that. 😉 LakeArenal Sep 2018 #19
Moore hates the party and wants to hurt the party Gothmog Sep 2018 #13
Is that why Moore highlights and celebrates several up and coming Democrats? Fiendish Thingy Sep 2018 #27
I am so happy that Moore's film had bombed at the box office Gothmog Sep 2018 #29
Moore doesn't make me uncomfortable. He annoys me ismnotwasm Sep 2018 #14
Well said! LakeArenal Sep 2018 #20
+1 betsuni Sep 2018 #45
I like Moore, but he is a propagandist, not a documentarian Algernon Moncrieff Sep 2018 #18
I like the term provocateur peekaloo Sep 2018 #28
I like Sicko until he takes the first responders to Cuba Algernon Moncrieff Sep 2018 #34
I praise your diplomacy. Anyone else posting anything else close to this would have had the post... rwsanders Sep 2018 #21
The only thing that makes me "uncomfortable" about Moore, is that people can admire such... NNadir Sep 2018 #22
I agree with your analysis Gothmog Sep 2018 #31
and this JI7 Sep 2018 #39
Inside Michael Moore's Smear Campaign Against the Man Who Helped Build His Film Festival Cha Sep 2018 #49
And obviously Dick Cheney was going to be running the shop, so it wasn't even that Bush and Gore betsuni Sep 2018 #46
Depends on who a person blames for it. Honeycombe8 Sep 2018 #23
... SidDithers Sep 2018 #24
Arghh Gothmog Sep 2018 #32
Wow! That sure explains a lot! R B Garr Sep 2018 #33
and taken the day of the Trump Tower meeting JI7 Sep 2018 #38
Disgusting photo. NurseJackie Sep 2018 #41
To expound on your Moore/Assange buddy pic, Sid.. Cha Sep 2018 #54
because right now it is all hands on deck lapfog_1 Sep 2018 #26
It seems that moore's Movie bombed Gothmog Sep 2018 #30
The bombed narrative is overplayed Algernon Moncrieff Sep 2018 #35
Nah, it bombed BannonsLiver Sep 2018 #66
I saw the movie today marlakay Sep 2018 #36
Were there other people in the theater? Gothmog Sep 2018 #37
I went to 2pm show on Senior discount day marlakay Sep 2018 #42
Former first lady #MichelleObama launches #WhenWeAllVote campaign Gothmog Sep 2018 #43
Poor Bitter Moore.. his trying to smear Pres Obama & Hillary is NOT working.. Cha Sep 2018 #51
Democrats don't have legislation written for them by think tanks funded by corporations and betsuni Sep 2018 #48
Moore is an Idiot.. hasn't learned any GD lessons... he wants You to "Embrace trump" Cha Sep 2018 #50
A really thought provoking post - thanks. icaria Sep 2018 #52
You mean like when Zizek said that Alt-right Trump Supporters and left wing Sanders fans.. JHan Sep 2018 #57
Wow! Thank You for that nutshell description Cha Sep 2018 #60
Vague references to "beholden to corporate cash" are idiotic to me SHRED Sep 2018 #53
It is idiotic. betsuni Sep 2018 #55
It's maddening SHRED Sep 2018 #65
Does anyone seriously believe Moore is not aware of ALEC and RW think tanks and RW propaganda? Fred Sanders Sep 2018 #67
People on the Left did not vote for Hillary SHRED Sep 2018 #68
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