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In reply to the discussion: Why is it when black candidates win, white people take or are given credit for that win. [View all]Cha
(297,154 posts)94. Joan Walsh is so absolutely Correct!
I argued at the time that progressives, defined broadly, had in fact won the night: Its ridiculous to define women like Whitmer, who supports a $15 minimum wage, gun-safety legislation, and Planned Parenthood funding, or Native American lesbian Obama administration veteran Davids, as merely establishment.
This time, the script is flipped, but the divisive storyline is the same.
This time, the script is flipped, but the divisive storyline is the same.
I argued, too.. and so did many others around here. Just because they weren't BS/AOC backed didn't mean they weren't very Progressive Candidates. Even as their opponents tried to paint as the ol stale epithet.. "establishment"!!
But again, thats the wrong takeaway from an exciting primary. Gillum was an early Hillary Clinton surrogate and convention delegate whose victory is first and foremost due to the hard work of African-American Democrats, the backbone of the party. The Gillum beats the establishment storylines are creating a false narrative, maybe even intentionally so.
I say "intentionally".. nobody could be that obtuse. And, we've had years of experience with the US "media******".
...but the media wants to give all credit to Sanders. Somehow, they are managing to frame his win as divisive, when in fact it holds the promise of ending the unnecessary schism between identity politics and economic progressivism. Gillum, by the way, didnt have to be pushed left by the Sanders forces. Like a lot of folks who supported Clinton (myself included), he was already there.
That's what I've said about 75 times.. Andrew is a Uniter Not a Divider. He's doing his best to dispel the M$M divisive tactics.
But on Morning Joe, he resisted the Sanders-clone framing and didnt back off his economic progressivism in the slightest, but he presented it as pragmatic and solutions-oriented, Sargent observed.
This is an important OP, she.. Thank You and Joan Walsh.. who says the Biggest Winner on Tuesday night was Bill Nellson(Florida and the country!)!
I still say Andrew but it's an important point.. Andrew can mobilize his coalitions to come out strong and they'll be voting for Bill Nelson, too.
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Why is it when black candidates win, white people take or are given credit for that win. [View all]
sheshe2
Sep 2018
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Often times, one paper puts out the article and it goes out on the news feed to be picked up by 100s
TheBlackAdder
Sep 2018
#84
I want to know the answer to that question, Sheshe. I'm sick and tired to see every
lunamagica
Sep 2018
#3
Also, cannot possibly have anything to do with 95% of US citizens knowing the name 'Bernie Sanders'
mr_lebowski
Sep 2018
#34
The relative lack of Gillum name recognition is a good point in media and search results. nt
PufPuf23
Sep 2018
#37
"Sanders served a purpose in opening peoples eyes in the 2016 POTUS campaign to issues within the
lunamagica
Sep 2018
#86
It's on most newscasts too. I know that Univision will not mention Gillium without showing
lunamagica
Sep 2018
#87
And also the way the win was framed by CNN, and MSNBC and other cable news outlets.
JHan
Sep 2018
#36
When you've been in politics for 15 years and become competitive in a governor's race..
JHan
Sep 2018
#51
Funny, all those titles could have said, "Hillary-delegate Andrew Gillum wins . . . "
pnwmom
Sep 2018
#61
Well ya know Bernie thinks he can get the deplorable vote and the Black vote
njhoneybadger
Sep 2018
#11
I'm sorry. Did Bernie write the articles? Do you have a quote from Sanders taking credit? n/t
TCJ70
Sep 2018
#104
Here's something to understand, the news media thrives on conflict, it increases clicks...
Humanist_Activist
Sep 2018
#33
Well see, that's the thing, from what I can tell, most of these candidates are interested in....
Humanist_Activist
Sep 2018
#44
No one is really arguing that Medicare, as structured now, would pay all medical bills.
Humanist_Activist
Sep 2018
#69
Like the old saying goes, a success has many parents, a failure is an orphan. nt
SunSeeker
Sep 2018
#41
If Andrew Gillum were white, would the media not have declared it "a win for Sanders?"
Tom Rinaldo
Sep 2018
#98