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In reply to the discussion: So can we get rid of the stupid "progressive vs establishment" false dichotomy now? [View all]questionseverything
(9,654 posts)62. love your post,,,,bernie's ideas (single payer and legalized mj) are now more mainstream
i don't know how long it will take but at least the idea is out there
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So can we get rid of the stupid "progressive vs establishment" false dichotomy now? [View all]
JHan
Aug 2018
OP
Gillum was given a speaking spot at the DNC convention and was a delegate- for Hillary.
bettyellen
Aug 2018
#29
Why all the angst about progressive vs. moderate? Were there emails about Gillum by moderates in DU?
Honeycombe8
Aug 2018
#61
i stopped believing in labels when I decided to drink slightly expired grape juice.
JHan
Aug 2018
#11
Because we have three long standing trolls who each like to stir it up almost every day, and lots
Squinch
Aug 2018
#70
Can we get rid of the "Endorsements from Bernie Sanders don't mean anything" narrative also?
oberliner
Aug 2018
#16
love your post,,,,bernie's ideas (single payer and legalized mj) are now more mainstream
questionseverything
Aug 2018
#62
Unfortunately the contradiction between how some speak of delegates, how they treated speakers at
bettyellen
Aug 2018
#33
You know how to take down an untrue post right? You click the little "self-delete" button.
Squinch
Aug 2018
#72
Yes, you'll find a fairly broad ideological spectrum within any political organization.
JHan
Aug 2018
#43
+ Putin likes the chaos and discord, and the geopolitical point is an important one..
JHan
Aug 2018
#90
They'll never stop. One of our most prolific is right here in this very thread. But so be it.
Squinch
Aug 2018
#73
No, any more than we can get rid of the idea that racism still exists in this nation even post
JCanete
Aug 2018
#41
Kay. Maybe you do up a report on the massive differences. The rest of us will be over here
Squinch
Aug 2018
#74
So will I. What exactly do you want from me here. I already thought it inaccurate to assume the
JCanete
Aug 2018
#87
No they aren't irrelevant. We can be on the same side of defeating Trump and still care about how we
JCanete
Aug 2018
#116
I like primaries and issues I care about getting exposure. I'll vote for the candidate in the GE
JCanete
Aug 2018
#125
Some of us are more or less down on the ills of capitalism AS the ills of capitalism for one.
JCanete
Aug 2018
#89
regulatory framework keeping capitalism in check has been policy pushed by Democrats.
JHan
Aug 2018
#105
Thank you, thank you, thank you. There's too much sophomoric, dorm room philosophy that...
brush
Aug 2018
#106
Ahhhh...you do know about the huge tax cut for the rich right, that was passed into law recently?
brush
Aug 2018
#118
I mentioned the multiple tax cuts rammed thru by the repugs to show you who is behind not taxing...
brush
Aug 2018
#121
Obama's tax cut was for the middle class and small businesses, not for the rich. Nice try though.
brush
Aug 2018
#134
Again, you seem to not understand none of those things can happen until the Dems are the majority...
brush
Aug 2018
#147
And Democrats have an entirely different base that they work for and represent. The party is only
JCanete
Aug 2018
#119
Well, if that's what you took from that, fine. Actually I'm addressing your broad brush that
JCanete
Aug 2018
#130
wow, that's a ridiculously low bar that you are willing to settle on there. There is fighting
JCanete
Aug 2018
#136
I could say the same to you, and that would get us nowhere. Do you actuallly take issue with the
JCanete
Aug 2018
#139
thank you thank you thank you, for bringing the condescention that was so greatly lacking in this
JCanete
Aug 2018
#122
I have no idea what your last paragraph is referring to or means...that the democratic party is the
JCanete
Aug 2018
#114
The impetus has to be there to present something. I respect the wonkishness. Obviously things need
JCanete
Aug 2018
#129
except I didn't say we shouldn't compromise. I said our proposals shouldn't start at the compromise.
JCanete
Aug 2018
#135
Well we aren't getting anywhere here at this point. You say one sort of analysis is lazy, I say
JCanete
Aug 2018
#141
JHan, you just start in with the personal at some point. What did I ignore? I named what you've
JCanete
Aug 2018
#145
Uhm, how could anyone possibly take issue with that.. voting is about consequences.
JHan
Aug 2018
#142
Yeah, I think one of these threads addresses that I think our best leaders are the ones who
JCanete
Aug 2018
#144
It's been reported that Gillum and Graham are friends, and they had a refreshingly cordial...
George II
Aug 2018
#48
so i found her website....she didnt support legalization but decriminalizing for personal use
questionseverything
Aug 2018
#67
Funny. I thought it was the "well established progressive vs stupid" paradigm :)
Bernardo de La Paz
Aug 2018
#50
I disagree. On both sides of the political spectrum there are moderates and those to the
Trust Buster
Aug 2018
#51
I agree with you in principle but I think the OP ignores the fact that we are living in a
Trust Buster
Aug 2018
#56
The rest of us will be voting "D." Because, you know, the Republic is in danger of blowing up. But
Squinch
Aug 2018
#75
Whatever happens, it's good to have new bold, young, progressive voices rising to leadership.
liberalnarb
Aug 2018
#69
Please please please please please please please please please please please please
betsuni
Aug 2018
#79