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Kaleva

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10. At some point, the person sometimes can't tell if it's the addiction or pain causing them anguish.

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Tue Aug 28, 2018, 11:58 AM

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How the opioid crackdown is backfiring [View all] DonViejo Aug 2018 OP

The doctor could have very well determined that his patient had become addicted to opioids. Trust Buster Aug 2018 #1

Or atreides1 Aug 2018 #2

Or, taking opioids for decades will likely result in addiction. Trust Buster Aug 2018 #3

Yeah, but so what? Mosby Aug 2018 #9

At some point, the person sometimes can't tell if it's the addiction or pain causing them anguish. Kaleva Aug 2018 #10

My point exactly. Thank you. Trust Buster Aug 2018 #13

Then the doc should have referred the patient for evaluation Mariana Aug 2018 #14

And the doc might very well have refered the patient for evaluation. Kaleva Aug 2018 #15

The patient can tell if the pain meds are working Mosby Aug 2018 #17

+1 Blue_Tires Aug 2018 #45

so is the answer for that person or persons to be WhiteTara Aug 2018 #59

You must not have had friends take their own lives Ms. Toad Aug 2018 #4

+1 LuckyCharms Aug 2018 #5

And I know people who have Od'd or have/are spending years in prison. Kaleva Aug 2018 #11

The people in chronic pain, under medical care, and who are being denied relief Ms. Toad Aug 2018 #18

+1000 Cetacea Apr 2020 #79

Are You Aware Of The Strictures Involved With Getting Legal Pain Meds? ProfessorGAC Aug 2018 #21

You don't seem to know how drug addicts work. Kaleva Aug 2018 #22

Willfully Avoiding The Point ProfessorGAC Aug 2018 #28

Your wife doesn't deserve those drugs if somebody, somewhere is getting high. Coventina Aug 2018 #29

Amazing how many Puritans we have on this board. Crunchy Frog Aug 2018 #56

Opiates are pretty boring if people, pain patients or addicts, know exactly what they are getting. hunter Aug 2018 #50

exactly. When/If the day comes my doctors cut me off...... demtenjeep Aug 2018 #32

Having a daughter with a variation of the disease you have - Ms. Toad Aug 2018 #38

Thank you. That is exactly correct demtenjeep Aug 2018 #40

Easier to just cut people off and refuse to see them and not care. Eliot Rosewater Aug 2018 #53

So???? Drahthaardogs Aug 2018 #26

That's the part I'm not quite clear on either. ecstatic Aug 2018 #52

Lots of side effects, but none of them outweigh the benefit of the pain killing. Eliot Rosewater Aug 2018 #54

Any doctor prescribing opiates long-term should know they're creating dependence. moriah Aug 2018 #30

Taking opioids on a daily basis pretty much guarantees addiction Major Nikon Aug 2018 #77

We are under a lot of stress in the hospice world mucifer Aug 2018 #6

Yeah not fooled Aug 2018 #7

Of course not. Suicides can't be exploited politically the way OD deaths can. kcr Aug 2018 #8

If they get addicted they deserve to be cut off forever and live in agony. Mariana Aug 2018 #12

A person got arrested not far from where I live for selling her opioi prescription pills to addicts. Kaleva Aug 2018 #16

So a criminal lived close to you. What does that have to do with chronic pain? kcr Aug 2018 #19

You apparently don't care about the pain innocents suffer. Kaleva Aug 2018 #23

I am the child of a drug addict, and my siblings suffered because the other addict was their mom. moriah Aug 2018 #31

My youngest stepson is a recovering addict. Kaleva Aug 2018 #43

Still... you're kind of making my point. moriah Aug 2018 #44

Would he even started on the pills had they not been so easily available? Kaleva Aug 2018 #47

I don't know, truthfully. moriah Aug 2018 #49

I don't have a high opinion of those who sell or give their prescription drugs Kaleva Aug 2018 #74

.... if you're saying docs shouldn't prescribe for obvious acute (as in, not chronic) injuries... moriah Aug 2018 #75

you apparently don't care for those that deeply suffer DAILY demtenjeep Aug 2018 #34

Not if they sell to addicts Kaleva Aug 2018 #48

What? People selling them arent using them, trust me on this. Eliot Rosewater Aug 2018 #55

i don't demtenjeep Aug 2018 #63

Trust me. If one is in chronic pain they will most certainly NOT be selling their meds demtenjeep Aug 2018 #33

Facts refute your statement. Kaleva Aug 2018 #42

NO, they DONT Eliot Rosewater Aug 2018 #57

I don't give a shit REP Aug 2018 #58

i am speaking from personal experience demtenjeep Aug 2018 #62

Additional Supporting facts erhaustin Apr 2020 #78

I think a lot of people in big pain are addicted. leftyladyfrommo Aug 2018 #20

There seems to be a lot of confusion on this thread between DEPENDENCY and ADDICTION Coventina Aug 2018 #24

Thank you! runtel Aug 2018 #25

IKR? Somebody somewhere might get high, so screw anyone who needs the drugs! Coventina Aug 2018 #27

exactly. demtenjeep Aug 2018 #35

Beg to differ *slightly*. moriah Aug 2018 #37

Thank you. Corgigal Aug 2018 #39

I understand people are suffering from opiod abuse, but I cannot abide leaving people in pain aikoaiko Aug 2018 #36

This message was self-deleted by its author Ligyron Aug 2018 #41

Some of you on this thread needs to google thalamic pain shraby Aug 2018 #46

The crackdown is actually driving people to the underground market fescuerescue Aug 2018 #51

Opioids Don't Beat Other Medications For Chronic Pain janterry Aug 2018 #60

One huge problem with that? NSAIDS are FAR more dangerous than Opioids. Coventina Aug 2018 #61

I'm not an MD janterry Aug 2018 #65

opioids, when used correctly are very safe, not so NSAIDS Coventina Aug 2018 #68

my dad had terminal cancer Mosby Aug 2018 #73

Not everyone can take those other medications. Eliminating opioids removes the best option pnwmom Aug 2018 #64

That's crazy. A terminal illness is a whole different thing janterry Aug 2018 #66

She didn't have a cancer diagnosis. She was just so old that her systems were failing. pnwmom Aug 2018 #67

I'm so sorry for your loss janterry Aug 2018 #70

She was very old and she didn't want them to do anything more, except relieve the pain. pnwmom Aug 2018 #72

smoke weed, won't kill your liver like pills JuJuYoshida Aug 2018 #69

That's not an option for those of us who have government jobs. n/t Coventina Aug 2018 #71

It doesn't work for everyone. For people with metastatic cancer mucifer Aug 2018 #76