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Hekate

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53. I am baffled at the venomous attacks on the press in this thread. Where have all of you been?
Sat Aug 18, 2018, 01:35 PM
Aug 2018

Why do you think Trump has been screaming at the news media in his rallies, singling individuals out by name, singling out individual news organizations?

It isn't because they flatter him. It's because they dare to ask questions and fact-check him.

As a whole the media certainly made some mistakes early on, but I distinctly remember Rachel Maddow giving us all a heads-up months and months and months ago about Ukrainian financial papers with Manafort's name all over them that had been tossed in a pond at some dacha. When he first surfaced as Trump's campaign manager? She had a LOT of questions. Sorry if all the details aren't on the tips of my fingers, but by gods when he got arrested a lot of already-familiar details emerged. Not everybody is Joe and Mika.

The media (print and cable) made the mistake of thinking Trump was an entertainer who couldn't win. Then they made the mistake of thinking he would "rise to the office," and "grow into the office." Even the ones who were not asleep at the wheel initially made that mistake -- except for the people who have been my go-to sources all along.

Now they are really awake, with a job to do. What else do you call it when some 400 newspapers put out First Amendment editorials on the same day?

media ppl are also part of the public. event should be listed as private then. nt msongs Aug 2018 #1
Pretty naive of her. NCTraveler Aug 2018 #2
Is she under the impression the press would be calling ICE or something mythology Aug 2018 #22
Do you think Breitbart or Fox would do that? DeltaLitProf Aug 2018 #67
How does she know incognito ICE people weren't there, taking pictures? pnwmom Aug 2018 #71
Would you look at that! gratuitous Aug 2018 #3
no shit right? Color me surprised. nt JCanete Aug 2018 #5
Right?? Tiggeroshii Aug 2018 #7
Do they demand to be invited to meetings between politicians and their donors? Sophia4 Aug 2018 #80
Have they demanded tax returns from every politician?? R B Garr Aug 2018 #97
They always find their balls when they face dems but tiptoe around the cons Fullduplexxx Aug 2018 #12
No Democrat should be banning the press. Pure and simple. It's a horrible decision and... brush Aug 2018 #17
This might be shocking gratuitous Aug 2018 #23
Make it a private event. No Democrat should ever ban the press from a publc event. brush Aug 2018 #26
I don't think the First Amendment says what you think it says gratuitous Aug 2018 #33
So what's your argument? Congress is the only one who shall not abridge freedom of the press? brush Aug 2018 #34
Really? gratuitous Aug 2018 #37
You seem to be having difficulty understanding that it was a poor decision to ban the press... brush Aug 2018 #41
I have met with employees of my member of Congress privately. Sophia4 Aug 2018 #78
The press is part of the public. IMO when you ban them specifically, there is no longer freedom... brush Aug 2018 #85
She's not Congress yet. But if she's going to hold "public" events, she needs to invite the public. pnwmom Aug 2018 #43
It is when you bill the event as "public" -- which she did. The press is part of the public pnwmom Aug 2018 #39
Really? gratuitous Aug 2018 #40
Who has ASKED to be anonymous whose identity hasn't been protected? nt pnwmom Aug 2018 #42
This might be shocking... fallout87 Aug 2018 #74
When politicians speak to groups of donors, they don't necessarily invite the press. Sophia4 Aug 2018 #79
Apparently you haven't read a paper in the last 18 months mythology Aug 2018 #24
Preach it gratuitous! Devil Child Aug 2018 #25
+1 leftstreet Aug 2018 #73
They keep making this worst. She needs seasoned, professional advisers. brush Aug 2018 #4
But such people would be part of the "elitist establishment" .... Older Than I Look Aug 2018 #15
Which is why we need the older, experienced hands in the party too. brush Aug 2018 #16
preachin' to the choir, here. Older Than I Look Aug 2018 #19
Oh, I know. We're on the same page. brush Aug 2018 #21
Have they ever demanded access to the clown fuck in the White House? Autumn Aug 2018 #6
Where have you been? Hekate Aug 2018 #50
It was a rhetorical question. Autumn Aug 2018 #55
Demonizing the media does us no good. joshcryer Aug 2018 #8
I just don't see any sign of her doing that DeltaLitProf Aug 2018 #68
Not really. joshcryer Aug 2018 #72
The fact that this is such an issue is because of intellectually dishonest bullshit Cal Carpenter Aug 2018 #9
I think this is a pretty fair assessment. NCTraveler Aug 2018 #11
After spending 5-6 weeks out of state, AOC had three scheduled public events in her district. lapucelle Aug 2018 #14
It was so obviously mishandled. Inexperienced advisors didn't know to make it a private event. brush Aug 2018 #18
We have a GOP President who calls the press "the enemy of the people" pnwmom Aug 2018 #45
some of those comments are dumb. "how does presence of reporters make people feel unsafe? " JCanete Aug 2018 #10
Hmmm. Steep learning curve for the darling of the left. The smackdown was righteously deserved. Hekate Aug 2018 #13
Hear, hear. Well said. brush Aug 2018 #20
Agreed. Big mistake. NurseJackie Aug 2018 #27
It's definitely Not a "non-story" as Cha Aug 2018 #28
If she's tired of having her mistakes and missteps documented and called-out... NurseJackie Aug 2018 #30
Yes, admit it, apologize, and Cha Aug 2018 #31
The darling of the left... tonedevil Aug 2018 #44
Young, attractive, energetic, politically naive, overnight celebrity, in need of a mentor. Better? Hekate Aug 2018 #49
Darling of the left... tonedevil Aug 2018 #56
My blushes. I didn't know you cared, tonedevil. Hekate Aug 2018 #58
Caused by phone trouble... tonedevil Aug 2018 #59
(bats eyelashes) Wanna meet for coffee? Ooops, you edited a lot. Sad. Hekate Aug 2018 #60
This probably isn't the dating opportunity you seem to have hopped for. /nt tonedevil Aug 2018 #61
Well, I am crushed. My bitter tears are making my morning coffee all salty. How can I go on? Hekate Aug 2018 #62
I should never try to answer... tonedevil Aug 2018 #63
You do get that tongue is planted firmly in cheek, right? brush Aug 2018 #87
Thank you. Can't be any clearer than that. brush Aug 2018 #86
You should be on the side of undocumented immigrants SkyDancer Aug 2018 #83
And who makes sure we know about what's going on? Who let us know about caged babies? Hekate Aug 2018 #89
And who let you know SkyDancer Aug 2018 #90
"DUsplain"? That's a nifty new word. Please explain in detail your claim that... Hekate Aug 2018 #92
DUsplain??? Wth is DUsplain? Wwcd Aug 2018 #94
You'll have to ask SkyDancer, who coined it. Almost sounds like... Hekate Aug 2018 #95
That's how I felt when I read it. Demeaned, belittled, condescended Wwcd Aug 2018 #96
Oh, those preening fucks wellst0nev0ter Aug 2018 #29
Oh yeah? then why did the AOC campaign say.. Cha Aug 2018 #47
This may be part of the reason for the blackout wellst0nev0ter Aug 2018 #65
Bingo! SkyDancer Aug 2018 #82
Lol...... USALiberal Aug 2018 #51
If it's with regular constituents, who gives a shit? wellst0nev0ter Aug 2018 #64
When these whiny assholes stop rolling over Jake Stern Aug 2018 #32
"..whiny assholes.. " are the Free Press.. not a good example Cha Aug 2018 #48
Since when did the press, which includes local Queens/Bronx press, become "whiny assholes"? RelativelyJones Aug 2018 #77
Segue from the MSNBC personality thread JonAndKatePlusABird Aug 2018 #35
When you have details and not just a smear, let us know. What are your personal news sources? Hekate Aug 2018 #54
She's a rookie so it's not surprising that she makes comradebillyboy Aug 2018 #36
This is a terrible move in an era with a President who calls the press "the enemy of the people." pnwmom Aug 2018 #38
Benjy Sarlin makes a good point.. Cha Aug 2018 #46
at this rate she may lose general election AlexSFCA Aug 2018 #52
I am baffled at the venomous attacks on the press in this thread. Where have all of you been? Hekate Aug 2018 #53
No, they made the mistake of not even doing their job. They are supposed to vet these people for the JCanete Aug 2018 #75
15,000 + votes, some media attention and the 🍊/Avenatti bug has bitten! robbedvoter Aug 2018 #57
She's just one candidate in one race. Every candidate is important. gulliver Aug 2018 #66
This is stupid and dangerous. Democrats don't suppress journalism! yardwork Aug 2018 #69
The comments on those tweets are more supportive of AOC than most comments on this thread. dgauss Aug 2018 #70
Where has the fuckng media been the last 2 1/2 years??? pangaia Aug 2018 #76
Some replies to tweets from the press SkyDancer Aug 2018 #81
Ding ding ding. You got it. That's all it has to do with. So sad. Nanjeanne Aug 2018 #84
"Yup, I'm going with that." You seem to go with a lot of R B Garr Aug 2018 #88
This Hekate Aug 2018 #93
She wasn't endorsed by BS. She wasn't on his radar until after she won. N/T lapucelle Aug 2018 #91
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