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Cha

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155. I hear ya out here in Hawaii, RB!
Sat Jun 30, 2018, 09:30 PM
Jun 2018

You're making valid points.

All I'm saying is .. If the Democratic Party is a big tent and we have all kinds of Democrats.. then why try to marginalize anyone with that vapid "corporate Dem" talking point that we've heard ad nauseam around the net.. that and "establishment"? My god I'm sick to pieces of that.

Cortez: "I am absolutely ... proud to be a Democrat," Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez says, "but it also means that the Democratic Party is a big tent and there are so many ways to be a Democrat"

that's a winning strategy for you: do not mention trump's name AlexSFCA Jun 2018 #1
Alexandria is such a breath of fresh air... she IS the future of the Democratic Party! InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2018 #50
She is the future of the Democratic Party in The Bronx and Queens oberliner Jun 2018 #109
OK, you are going a bit too far. NY_20th Jun 2018 #118
It's just a prediction... Alexandria has a winning POSITIVE progressive message... InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2018 #126
Honestly, I think there is too much hyberbole about her from different ideologies. NY_20th Jun 2018 #142
I think it's the message Alexandria won with... it has national appeal. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2018 #144
I don't know if it has national appeal, but it certainly had appeal in her district, NY_20th Jun 2018 #146
No doubt about that. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2018 #150
Justice Democrats were founded by Cenk Uyger. R B Garr Jun 2018 #2
Ryan Grimm is an associate of Cenk NY_20th Jun 2018 #4
Yes, thank you. Then I read her litmus test in her response which sounds R B Garr Jun 2018 #6
I think you're reading too much into it. NY_20th Jun 2018 #12
What she says about "corporate Democrats" is very familiar. R B Garr Jun 2018 #13
Will she pledge not to take cash or help from dark money groups? lapucelle Jun 2018 #85
Very good question! Someone should put that to her. R B Garr Jun 2018 #88
So...if she does, even if small donations don't cut it for her run, then she is to be pilloried? LiberalLovinLug Jun 2018 #97
Of course... Alexandria is a threat to money interests. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2018 #141
McConnell LIED saying she is a socialist and supports OPEN BORDERS. pangaia Jun 2018 #68
New York State Democrats will not fall for the Republican nonsense. NY_20th Jun 2018 #99
Her endorsers, however do. Don't tell us OC, tell your endorsers. Wwcd Jun 2018 #9
Post removed Post removed Jun 2018 #5
+1000, excellent points. This is the reality. It is presented as R B Garr Jun 2018 #10
Geeze, give her a few weeks to get up to speed on how the Beltway would like her to behave BeyondGeography Jun 2018 #7
Cenk will leave a bad mark on her name. He already has. That is the problem Wwcd Jun 2018 #11
I'm Hoping She's Not Getting Ahead Of Her Skis Me. Jun 2018 #37
Go watch the multitude of interviews she had with TYT. theaocp Jun 2018 #113
Exactly, alt-left; this was a fluke election. radius777 Jun 2018 #14
Meh, we'll see RhodeIslandOne Jul 2018 #169
She won because voters liked what they saw. AtomicKitten Jul 2018 #192
This message was self-deleted by its author RandomAccess Jun 2018 #15
Sigh. Do you recall where the "corporate Democrat" originated?? R B Garr Jun 2018 #18
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LOL, if you don't know who funds Justice Democrats*, it's no wonder you R B Garr Jun 2018 #38
This message was self-deleted by its author RandomAccess Jun 2018 #42
It's already been established that only "corporate Dems" are subject to R B Garr Jun 2018 #44
This message was self-deleted by its author RandomAccess Jun 2018 #47
You obviously are confused as to the origin of the term "corporate Democrats." R B Garr Jun 2018 #48
are you implying that there's no such thing as a corporate Democrat? choie Jun 2018 #71
There's also "dark money." Look it up and look up the funding for R B Garr Jun 2018 #73
You're making WAYYYY too much sense choie!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2018 #151
They should also pledge not to take dark money. Let's get everyone R B Garr Jul 2018 #191
This message was self-deleted by its author RandomAccess Jun 2018 #93
Could you please give a few examples of such Democrats? betsuni Jun 2018 #101
That is a very good question. sheshe2 Jun 2018 #145
I think the idea is that if a politician is from an agricultural area and betsuni Jun 2018 #148
Very good explaination, betsuni. sheshe2 Jun 2018 #152
It is within the power of the candiate to disclose the source / sources lapucelle Jun 2018 #156
That is an excellent suggestion. R B Garr Jun 2018 #164
Lots of people, like me, have contributed to Justice Democrats womanofthehills Jun 2018 #67
Yes, and I've contributed to Democrats and I'm not a "corporate Dem" R B Garr Jun 2018 #69
I just ran a search and there's little to be found. theaocp Jun 2018 #117
LOL, the poster lapucelle provided me with a couple R B Garr Jun 2018 #121
I missed that thread. theaocp Jun 2018 #124
Look for the search function on this screen. R B Garr Jun 2018 #127
That wasn't terribly helpful. theaocp Jun 2018 #136
LOL R B Garr Jun 2018 #138
Recommended. H2O Man Jun 2018 #3
Post removed Post removed Jun 2018 #19
Are you kidding me with this? NY_20th Jun 2018 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author RandomAccess Jun 2018 #39
Yes there sure are melman Jun 2018 #116
It happens. H2O Man Jun 2018 #159
Wow. demmiblue Jun 2018 #81
Watch out! Working class is code for "white people" now... TCJ70 Jun 2018 #46
hahaha. IKR!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2018 #134
I've seen all H2O Man Jun 2018 #160
Recommending your recommendation. AtomicKitten Jul 2018 #194
She needs to be careful not to lose that seat for us. murielm99 Jun 2018 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author RandomAccess Jun 2018 #17
She's a self-described Justice Democrat. Have you not heard of them?? nt R B Garr Jun 2018 #20
She is a proud Democrat. NY_20th Jun 2018 #23
This is about her Tweet that is posted. Her comment about corporate $$$. nt R B Garr Jun 2018 #24
I read it as her acknowledging that there are candidates running NY_20th Jun 2018 #28
She has said more than that Tweet. It sounds familiar. nt R B Garr Jun 2018 #33
I'm finding that many in the media are attempting to spin NY_20th Jun 2018 #43
I obviously don't know a lot about her, but am sick to death of the R B Garr Jun 2018 #49
We will. NY_20th Jun 2018 #55
LOL, I am never going to stop criticizing the revolution saboteurs. R B Garr Jun 2018 #56
I've been called a corporate Dem, a centrist Dem, etc. NY_20th Jun 2018 #60
I've been called that, too, and it made me realize how ignorant R B Garr Jun 2018 #65
This message was self-deleted by its author RandomAccess Jun 2018 #74
Same to you. I see you were off base R B Garr Jun 2018 #82
This message was self-deleted by its author RandomAccess Jun 2018 #91
I'll stick with the Mueller facts--those that point to R B Garr Jun 2018 #96
Did you... sheshe2 Jun 2018 #147
I don't think it's a good sign that Cha Jun 2018 #153
Can you please point to where she called anyone a corporate Dem? NY_20th Jun 2018 #157
I stated my opinion.. don't take Cha Jun 2018 #161
I'm not taking it hard. NY_20th Jun 2018 #162
There is no "bashing".. we're having a Cha Jun 2018 #163
Agreed, nothing sinister at all...certainly won't make corporations happy...isn't that a good thing? InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2018 #66
I have, and they ARE Dems as much as anyone... Dennis Donovan Jun 2018 #29
lol, Yes, Cenk Uyger was a Republican, but he's for sure a Democrat now... R B Garr Jun 2018 #31
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This is not directed towards you... Dennis Donovan Jun 2018 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author RandomAccess Jun 2018 #41
Oy vey... Dennis Donovan Jun 2018 #45
This message was self-deleted by its author RandomAccess Jun 2018 #77
word. KG Jun 2018 #51
This message was self-deleted by its author RandomAccess Jun 2018 #30
This reaction is a surprise?! Alexandria shines a bright light that has shown us the way... InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2018 #63
I like her. Crutchez_CuiBono Jun 2018 #107
LOL, Alexandria should be the one doing the mentoring... InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2018 #59
That is very insulting murielm99 Jul 2018 #167
She will win the seat and it won't be close oberliner Jun 2018 #108
I like her ismnotwasm Jun 2018 #16
Yes, exactly. She understands that social justice is just as important as NY_20th Jun 2018 #22
She seems to have a history of fighting the right fights as an activist and social organizer. Blue_true Jun 2018 #76
Yes, she's passionate, caring and driven. NY_20th Jun 2018 #80
I think some of the opposition comes from her being associated with Our Revolution. Blue_true Jun 2018 #106
She is laser focused on the issues, and is a proud Democrat. NY_20th Jun 2018 #111
I agree on all counts. One poster really surprised me with the opposition. Blue_true Jun 2018 #137
I like how she doesn't smear Democrats and the Democratic party. NurseJackie Jun 2018 #21
I like how she IS a Democrat. yallerdawg Jun 2018 #27
That means she's HONEST and she has INTEGRITY! NurseJackie Jun 2018 #35
Give her time to grow up. She's a media flavor Hortensis Jun 2018 #25
Having a child who is her age, NY_20th Jun 2018 #32
Not HER. Maybe read before answering? Hortensis Jun 2018 #52
"She doesn't seem to have learned from what happened on November 8, 2016, though." NY_20th Jun 2018 #57
She won by a little over half of 5% of her electorate. Hortensis Jun 2018 #62
This message was self-deleted by its author RandomAccess Jun 2018 #83
Cue the crickets... chirp! chirp! InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2018 #131
She is younger than my kids marlakay Jun 2018 #54
You bet. She's a great example for getting involved. Hortensis Jul 2018 #178
I don't agree with you. I was for Crowley. Blue_true Jun 2018 #86
I agree with most, except that Crowley did not forget, NY_20th Jun 2018 #120
Accepted, you are closer to it than I am. nt Blue_true Jun 2018 #140
Only, all politics is NOT local, as the USE of this Hortensis Jul 2018 #180
Knowing one's district is shopping in the same stores voters shop in. Blue_true Jul 2018 #197
Less than 3% of her district voted for her. Doesn't Hortensis Jul 2018 #199
It wasn't that low. 11.8% turned out NY_20th Jul 2018 #200
So she was 'accidentally elected' melman Jun 2018 #114
She supported asking our superdelegates to override democracy, Hortensis Jul 2018 #182
Lulzd. Voltaire2 Jul 2018 #170
Post removed Post removed Jun 2018 #53
She also had the grace to thank Joe Crowley for his "phenomenal work." MBS Jun 2018 #58
Thank you. I'm glad I'm not the only one who sees it. NY_20th Jun 2018 #61
She's not only the "future of the Democratic party" (from a comment upthread) MBS Jun 2018 #64
Thank you, I appreciate it. NY_20th Jun 2018 #78
Good post nt Ferrets are Cool Jun 2018 #90
LOL MuseRider Jul 2018 #177
Thank you. NY_20th Jul 2018 #198
She is a gracious person. She even reached out to Glenn Beck... First Speaker Jun 2018 #70
Her opponent, Joe Crowley, D, is a classy uniter too; he threw his full support behind her. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2018 #72
Yes. He did. NY_20th Jun 2018 #75
This message was self-deleted by its author RandomAccess Jun 2018 #89
I don't like that Nancy, Schumer, and BSanders Cha Jun 2018 #154
What is negative about wanting info R B Garr Jun 2018 #92
Can you forget about OR for just one moment? NY_20th Jun 2018 #95
LOL, there was a thread with links on election night. R B Garr Jun 2018 #102
I'm a New York State Democrat, NY_20th Jun 2018 #105
And I see MY California Senator Feinstein attacked with R B Garr Jun 2018 #119
I support Feinstein and Harris and have done so NY_20th Jun 2018 #122
She has made appearances with her supporters. R B Garr Jun 2018 #125
Why would she not be grateful towards those who believed in her? NY_20th Jun 2018 #128
LOL R B Garr Jun 2018 #130
Why do you keep laughing at me? NY_20th Jun 2018 #133
Ahh, thank you so much for the opportunity R B Garr Jun 2018 #135
OK, then what gives here? NY_20th Jun 2018 #139
I hear ya out here in Hawaii, RB! Cha Jun 2018 #155
Exactly, why bring it up except to elevate yourself. R B Garr Jun 2018 #165
hmmm, poster is from New York State and works to elect Democrats, NY_20th Jul 2018 #166
Right.. Good point! holier than thou.. just rubs Cha Jul 2018 #168
+1000 smirkymonkey Jul 2018 #172
Nailed it! Devil Child Jun 2018 #103
I probably would've voted for Joe Crowley if I was in that district; now I support Ocasio-Cortez. NBachers Jun 2018 #79
That's wonderful. NY_20th Jun 2018 #84
Based on a tweet? George II Jun 2018 #87
No, based on following her multiple interviews NY_20th Jun 2018 #98
A breath of air in a very stale room pecosbob Jun 2018 #94
She's charismatic, young and intelligent Bradshaw3 Jun 2018 #100
She's a breath of fresh air Power 2 the People Jun 2018 #104
CNN, NYT and the Republicans are the only ones calling her a divider RandySF Jun 2018 #110
Some on this thread seem to be buying the divisevness as well, NY_20th Jun 2018 #112
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #115
Certainly nothing to dislike about... CanSocDem Jun 2018 #123
I like her. She has been wearing the same dress to TV interviews. betsuni Jun 2018 #129
lol. Well, I didn't notice her wardrobe. NY_20th Jun 2018 #132
The 28th and 29th. Four interviews in same dress (for MSNBC she wore a jacket over it). betsuni Jun 2018 #143
I wonder if attacks like those GaryCnf Jun 2018 #149
Has anyone here actually said that? N/T lapucelle Jul 2018 #171
See post 14 for example. Voltaire2 Jul 2018 #173
That post is an example of someone noting several possible factors in play. lapucelle Jul 2018 #175
lulzd Voltaire2 Jul 2018 #179
Wait...what? lapucelle Jul 2018 #183
post #174 melman Jul 2018 #184
The word "only" seems to be missing, and that post is not dismissive of the victory. lapucelle Jul 2018 #185
lol melman Jul 2018 #188
"Only" is a catagorical quantifier that sets up a necessary condition. lapucelle Jul 2018 #189
lulzd melman Jul 2018 #190
It's a locution with dubious associations, but I'm sure Voltaire would defend it, lapucelle Jul 2018 #193
One thing more predictable melman Jul 2018 #195
That's why it's important not to characterize conjecture concerning possible explanations lapucelle Jul 2018 #196
I like her.... Upthevibe Jun 2018 #158
Texas poised to send its first 2 Latinas to Congress Gothmog Jul 2018 #174
"This candidate won because the demographics of her district changed" melman Jul 2018 #181
She is wrong Gothmog Jul 2018 #186
This n/t GaryCnf Jul 2018 #187
Just remember the 2 rules.... vi5 Jul 2018 #176
Then why did she primary a Democrat with seniority? ucrdem Jul 2018 #201
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