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Bread and Circus

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36. Of eligible voters is referenced in the Pew Research report, so that has been addressed I think.
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 04:57 PM
Jun 2018

So I think you are incorrect on this.

However, voter suppression is a huge problem. No arguments there.

However, was "voter suppression" magically not an issue in 2008 and 2012 but for all other elections before or since? Check the curve in the graph if you don't know what I mean.

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Get ready to be flamed for making sense HopeAgain Jun 2018 #1
Everything on your list is now in jeopardy for decades due to today's USSC retirement news. beaglelover Jun 2018 #3
Spin your wheels however you want... HopeAgain Jun 2018 #4
Spin yours... you're views are in the minority revmclaren Jun 2018 #26
I voted for Hillary HopeAgain Jun 2018 #33
!1000000! SammyWinstonJack Jun 2018 #76
Let people grieve. n/t ChiTownDenny Jun 2018 #155
More power to u and all of us. Chickensoup Jun 2018 #91
You're the one who's " Spin your wheels however you want..." Cha Jun 2018 #55
+1000000... revmclaren Jun 2018 #128
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Independents are not a bloc. n/t seaglass Jun 2018 #14
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Only 10% of Independents do not vote along party lines. I didn't say ignore Independents seaglass Jun 2018 #29
.... Scurrilous Jun 2018 #38
Some independents lean Republican, some lean Democratic. They aren't a monolithic block n/t emulatorloo Jun 2018 #130
Agreed! Sanders and idiot Stein screwed us all! machoneman Jun 2018 #99
Thank you. Sophia4 Jun 2018 #19
You're so right! Way past time to end the 2016 blame game...we need to unite & look to the future! InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2018 #60
Clinton DID Talk about those things dbackjon Jun 2018 #98
Pretty sure we talked about all that in 2016. nt Dr Hobbitstein Jun 2018 #107
No. Squinch Jun 2018 #2
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Really? Me. Jun 2018 #86
You mean voter suppression works right? thx in advance uponit7771 Jun 2018 #6
Of eligible voters is referenced in the Pew Research report, so that has been addressed I think. Bread and Circus Jun 2018 #36
VSM's in 08 & 12 did not match what went into law by 16. I've found no PEW polling on how uponit7771 Jun 2018 #45
2016 was the first presidential election following the gutting of the Voting Rights Act. N/T lapucelle Jun 2018 #132
Fuck that leftynyc Jun 2018 #7
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Want to have another hissy fit? leftynyc Jun 2018 #15
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I think the point is that people need to learn to tell the difference between an imperfect friend... nycbos Jun 2018 #17
Welcome to DU el_bryanto Jun 2018 #20
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Fucking 3rd Party LIARS stein and sarandon Are Going TO LIE Cha Jun 2018 #65
And what do you suppose could have been done to switch Stein and Trump voters Sophia4 Jun 2018 #23
Links please, because what I read is black people in Milwaukee and Detroit didn't turn out to vote. Bread and Circus Jun 2018 #42
to be accurate...we don't know if the black vote didn't turn out questionseverything Jun 2018 #105
A friend from elementary school said her son xmas74 Jun 2018 #129
Hogwash. What you are saying is it had nothing to do with the number of people who voted for Trump, KPN Jun 2018 #78
Great and accurate post! I agree 100%! Morons indeed! n/m machoneman Jun 2018 #101
It seems absurd and dull-witted LanternWaste Jun 2018 #8
More - RandomAccess Jun 2018 #11
Good additional material. CanSocDem Jun 2018 #28
It won't, but - RandomAccess Jun 2018 #41
Pardon me, but that is some stupid shit. Jakes Progress Jun 2018 #12
Numbers and facts are stupid? Bread and Circus Jun 2018 #43
Wow! Whites are the majority of this country ecstatic Jun 2018 #13
But Trump "won" in certain states only by a small margin. Sophia4 Jun 2018 #40
It's possible that she chose the wrong mate. But here is how I allocate the blame: ecstatic Jun 2018 #66
She would have won if she had selected Bernie as her running mate. Sophia4 Jun 2018 #82
Um... racism as in trump energizing the alt right and KKK members... ecstatic Jun 2018 #93
Fuck Jill Stein voters and Susan Sarandon supporters. They did not vote Dem and can go to hell. LonePirate Jun 2018 #16
Sorry, but your support of Jill Stein was and continues to be a horrible mistake. DanTex Jun 2018 #21
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LOL. That's what you got from the OP's bashing of Hillary Clinton? DanTex Jun 2018 #30
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You think Jill Stein is "looking to unite"? Really? Where do you get that idea? DanTex Jun 2018 #39
Not this "independents" bullshit, we're more versed on that M$M meme here uponit7771 Jun 2018 #48
The time for unity was on November 8, 2016. As of today, Stein voters are essentially Republicans. LonePirate Jun 2018 #51
Thanks for the enlightenment Dan. The OP must have had a change of heart as some do seaglass Jun 2018 #46
I see no change of heart, so... Hav Jun 2018 #75
Wish we could rec individual posts RhodeIslandOne Jun 2018 #61
Thank you, those who wrote that deserve the spotlight now. Hav Jun 2018 #67
I don't support Jill Stein. I support logic, truth, and respect. Bread and Circus Jun 2018 #79
Not anymore? That's good to hear. You're well on your way. DanTex Jun 2018 #81
Then you blew it. Cha Jun 2018 #85
You did at one time RhodeIslandOne Jun 2018 #119
No - fuck those faux-gressive rightwing activists Adenoid_Hynkel Jun 2018 #25
Oh ffs, Ocasio-Cortez is not a RWer. Outrageous attack on a soon to be elected Exotica Jun 2018 #110
Play a different card. lpbk2713 Jun 2018 #135
How about the 'do not bash general election Democratic candidates' card? Exotica Jun 2018 #158
How small a tent is TOO small? LiberalLovinLug Jun 2018 #162
No, not listening to half wits like Stein and Sarandon is the lesson. It is on their head that Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #31
And she still won by three million votes! dhol82 Jun 2018 #32
Not complicated. Sarandon, Stein, Corny West and their ilk cost us votes. oasis Jun 2018 #34
Maybe. But that's not what cost Clinton the election as least by a read of the numbers I linked. Bread and Circus Jun 2018 #74
Wrong. SunSeeker Jun 2018 #137
Simple get the red out Jun 2018 #37
If you honestly believe.... spicysista Jun 2018 #44
+1, "received enough votes to impact the states of Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Florida, and Michigan. " uponit7771 Jun 2018 #53
. revmclaren Jun 2018 #59
At this point, that's all we can do. Keep an arsenal of the facts handy and ready to deploy. nt. spicysista Jun 2018 #142
Thank you. emulatorloo Jun 2018 #127
Yes, this is a terrible op. I'm not sure what he was trying to do here. nt. spicysista Jun 2018 #134
First of all I think this is a terrible post...and secondly many voters were targeted for voter Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #47
Actually the point of the post is to show that your premises are incorrect. Bread and Circus Jun 2018 #69
cool story bro ! stonecutter357 Jun 2018 #49
Yeah, so cool.. and there's more to the story.. Cha Jun 2018 #143
NO. MariaCSR Jun 2018 #50
No. Bradical79 Jun 2018 #52
NO boston bean Jun 2018 #54
Stop blaming the people who gave us Trump. NCTraveler Jun 2018 #56
Thanks. elleng Jun 2018 #57
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Good point. I blame you Renew Deal Jun 2018 #62
I wish people would stop trying to defend 3rd party voters standingtall Jun 2018 #63
If Trump enablers do not understand the dire straights we're all facing under NY_20th Jun 2018 #64
What's more amazing is those blaming the "far left" MadDAsHell Jun 2018 #68
There's plenty of blame to go around. Don't worry, they get a share of it. n/t cynatnite Jun 2018 #70
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Say bye bye! marble falls Jun 2018 #72
The exit polls misstated Trump's performance among Latinos. Here are some articles that demonstrate StevieM Jun 2018 #73
She lost because of James Comey SubjectTrip Jun 2018 #77
It is not simply she lost because of Comey or Russians standingtall Jun 2018 #87
Those who fail to learn from history... Trumpocalypse Jun 2018 #80
Can you say Kris Kobach xeodtech Jun 2018 #83
You're part of the problem.. You got sucked into voting for Stein.. Cha Jun 2018 #84
Amen BannonsLiver Jun 2018 #89
Good catch Cha. Scurrilous Jun 2018 #90
It's all DanTex.. I'm just running Cha Jun 2018 #97
... Scurrilous Jun 2018 #116
Explains how sanguine Skidmore Jun 2018 #94
stein and ssarandon LIED their DAMN heads OFF and got Cha Jun 2018 #112
Indeed, Cha. Skidmore Jun 2018 #121
Much Love to you Cha Jun 2018 #126
Like I said, the numbers show Jill Stein Voters weren't the issue. Numbers don't lie. Sorry. Bread and Circus Jun 2018 #95
The OP should not have posting privileges here. Codeine Jun 2018 #109
I know, Codeine.. an in you face Jill Stein Voter who Cha Jun 2018 #122
What the numbers show is African American Voter went down and minorities Bread and Circus Jun 2018 #113
You voted for Stein and proudly used DU as the platform to make that public Hav Jun 2018 #120
You don't know how I voted and it doesn't matter either way. Bread and Circus Jun 2018 #131
HERE are some numbers that say "you lie" BumRushDaShow Jun 2018 #144
We need to stop blaming each other. We need each other to end this scourge. Lint Head Jun 2018 #88
I'll tell you what those polls DON'T reflect. They don't reflect how many people the Sarandon's and still_one Jun 2018 #92
Mahalo for that, still_one.. And the OP Owns This.. Cha Jun 2018 #136
Here's Sarandon telling us that Hillary is worse than Trump... NurseJackie Jun 2018 #138
In November 2016 the choice was between a fascist and Hillary Clinton bronxiteforever Jun 2018 #96
I knew there would be some hot takes sooner or later Blue_Tires Jun 2018 #100
I'm not following your logic. 100% of Stein voters and Sarandon (AFAIK) did not vote for spooky3 Jun 2018 #102
The fact is that Jill Stein took enough votes in the 3 critical states to swing the election. pnwmom Jun 2018 #103
Should be more angry at... mwooldri Jun 2018 #152
Fuck that. ismnotwasm Jun 2018 #104
People like you aren't the whole problem, Codeine Jun 2018 #106
Allow me to respond to that. If they're being honest... NurseJackie Jun 2018 #151
I blame everyone's that didn't vote for Hillary. tammywammy Jun 2018 #108
Yes, definitely complicated. But if they had not played their role Hillary might be President. Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2018 #111
Jill Stein is a mediocre, pretty limited buffoon and Susan is a pretty good actress Guy Whitey Corngood Jun 2018 #114
Black Voters for Trump/Immigration JustAnotherGen Jun 2018 #115
"if there is any demographic that "dropped off"...it would be the African American vote." BumRushDaShow Jun 2018 #117
Look at the numbers. Bread and Circus Jun 2018 #133
Look at the numbers in post #144 BumRushDaShow Jun 2018 #146
But you don't know where those 3rd party numbers came from or where they would have went. Bread and Circus Jun 2018 #157
Black voter turnout was higher, as a %, than whites in '12. Lower in '16 7962 Jun 2018 #163
Yes...let's blame Comey! Even tho the polls show he didn't cost the election. Honeycombe8 Jun 2018 #118
The polls absolutely DO show Comey's letter cost Hillary the election. SunSeeker Jun 2018 #149
Stop making excuses and take responsibility for what you did. emulatorloo Jun 2018 #123
"Voting is a civic responsibility" and yet Asian and Latino voting turnout is way way under... Bread and Circus Jun 2018 #139
I am saying - YOU - shrirked your responsibility. End of story. emulatorloo Jun 2018 #147
You don't know how I voted so you have no basis to say such a thing. Bread and Circus Jun 2018 #153
You deny writing this? emulatorloo Jun 2018 #160
+ 1 NY_20th Jun 2018 #140
I am SOOOOOOO very with you on this. I'm so sick of the looking back and finger Ferrets are Cool Jun 2018 #124
Fuck no. (nt) Paladin Jun 2018 #125
It must be nice to be so privileged, safe and utterly self-involved... liberalmuse Jun 2018 #141
Voter turnout for Presidential elections is worse in Latino and Asian populations. Bread and Circus Jun 2018 #150
I had an argument videohead5 Jun 2018 #145
TRASHED. DinahMoeHum Jun 2018 #148
I will, rightly, blame Stein and Sarandon for Trump every day, and there's no valid argument Tarc Jun 2018 #154
Oh Please ... chesterslick Jun 2018 #156
Thanks for posting this. zentrum Jun 2018 #159
Actually I blame Trump voters for Trump being elected. n/t Mr.Bill Jun 2018 #161
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