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RockRaven

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7. Accepting a pardon is an admission of guilt

Thu May 31, 2018, 11:33 PM

May 2018

not in an absolute, legally-binding, court-enforceable fashion by itself, but an admission of sorts. Quite simply, if there was no crime committed, then what is even being pardoned?

Add to that state criminal charges to which double jeopardy does not attach, and an attempt at a self-pardon could be disastrous just considering the state-level charges he would be admitting guilt of.

That it would be a disaster at the criminal charge/conviction level, never mind politically, does not in any way mean Trump won't try it though.

Having said that, he's too ignorant to write a proper pardon himself, and the people he would go to to do such a thing might simply refuse to participate in that action. Then what would he do?

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Michael Steele just said he thinks trump is going to pardon himself. [View all] onecaliberal May 2018 OP

I wouldn't bet against it. n/t GP6971 May 2018 #1

So while you're wandering around the Rose Garden in your bathrobe and pardoning people on Twitter Cha May 2018 #2

Will it come with a resignation? Cracklin Charlie May 2018 #3

Is that even constitutionally valid? quartz007 May 2018 #4

Article 2, Section 2, Paragraph 1 brooklynite May 2018 #5

Other than himself. drray23 May 2018 #6

You assume impeachment's in the offing... brooklynite May 2018 #10

Just an academic distinction. drray23 May 2018 #12

Thank you for posting that info! quartz007 May 2018 #8

Laurence Tribe, Richard Painter, and Norm Eisen all agree he can't pardon himself. pnwmom May 2018 #11

Laurence Tribe, Richard Painter, and Norm Eisen have no authority to impose their opinions brooklynite May 2018 #13

No, but the might be better at predicting the reaction of Federal courts to such an attempt. n/t pnwmom Jun 2018 #14

A president can be impeached for abusing the power to pardon. Lint Head Jun 2018 #16

Accepting a pardon is an admission of guilt RockRaven May 2018 #7

No worries, he will then run to Putin nt quartz007 May 2018 #9

Well, ain't that just dandy? Grammy23 Jun 2018 #15

Could Trump issue himself a pardon? Gothmog Jun 2018 #17

From my twitter feed Gothmog Jun 2018 #18