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(296,878 posts)127. Top Republican ADMITS Trump Won Wisconsin by Keeping Democrats From Voting
Election officials and Democrats in Wisconsin have repeatedly argued that the states strict voter ID law allowed Donald Trump to win the state in 2016 by keeping thousands of voterspredominantly in Democratic-leaning areasfrom the polls. Now a top Republican official in the state is saying the same thing.
We battled to get voter ID on the ballot for the November 16 election, Wisconsin Attorney General Brad Schimel, who defended the law in court, told conservative radio host Vicki McKenna on April 12. How many of your listeners really honestly are sure that Sen. [Ron] Johnson was going to win reelection or President Trump was going to win Wisconsin if we didnt have voter ID to keep Wisconsins elections clean and honest and have integrity?
The law, which went into effect in 2016, required specific forms of government-issued photo identification to vote. In a cover story last year, Mother Jones reported that the law kept tens of thousands of eligible voters from the polls and likely tipped the state to Trump. A federal court found in 2014 that 9 percent of registered voters in Wisconsin did not possess the identification necessary to vote. In a University of Wisconsin study published in September 2017, 1 in 10 registered voters in Milwaukee County and Madisons Dane County who did not cast a ballot in 2016 cited the voter ID law as a reason why. That meant that up to 23,000 voters in the two heavily Democratic countiesand as many as 45,000 voters statewidedidnt vote because of the voter ID law. Trump won the state by 22,000 votes.
African Americans, who favored Hillary Clinton over Trump by an 88-to-8 margin, were three times as likely as whites to say they were deterred from voting by the law.
Indeed, turnout fell most sharply in black neighborhoods of Milwaukee that heavily supported Clinton. Nearly 41,000 fewer people in the citywhere Clinton received 77 percent of the vote to Trumps 18voted in 2016 than in 2012.
We battled to get voter ID on the ballot for the November 16 election, Wisconsin Attorney General Brad Schimel, who defended the law in court, told conservative radio host Vicki McKenna on April 12. How many of your listeners really honestly are sure that Sen. [Ron] Johnson was going to win reelection or President Trump was going to win Wisconsin if we didnt have voter ID to keep Wisconsins elections clean and honest and have integrity?
The law, which went into effect in 2016, required specific forms of government-issued photo identification to vote. In a cover story last year, Mother Jones reported that the law kept tens of thousands of eligible voters from the polls and likely tipped the state to Trump. A federal court found in 2014 that 9 percent of registered voters in Wisconsin did not possess the identification necessary to vote. In a University of Wisconsin study published in September 2017, 1 in 10 registered voters in Milwaukee County and Madisons Dane County who did not cast a ballot in 2016 cited the voter ID law as a reason why. That meant that up to 23,000 voters in the two heavily Democratic countiesand as many as 45,000 voters statewidedidnt vote because of the voter ID law. Trump won the state by 22,000 votes.
African Americans, who favored Hillary Clinton over Trump by an 88-to-8 margin, were three times as likely as whites to say they were deterred from voting by the law.
Indeed, turnout fell most sharply in black neighborhoods of Milwaukee that heavily supported Clinton. Nearly 41,000 fewer people in the citywhere Clinton received 77 percent of the vote to Trumps 18voted in 2016 than in 2012.
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/04/top-republican-official-says-trump-won-wisconsin-because-of-voter-id-law/
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She would have won in a landslide had it not been for James Comey and the out-of-control FBI.
StevieM
Apr 2018
#3
I blame the profit-driven media and their completely deceptive trumpeting of a NON-STORY ...
mr_lebowski
Apr 2018
#8
I see your point, but only Comey could allow the message to be delivered with the prestige
StevieM
Apr 2018
#12
I agree with you 1000%. I've always said that if the media had called Trump's lies "a lie"
politicaljunkie41910
Apr 2018
#101
It was more like 6 points. But still, Trump had made recent gains, which also means two things:
StevieM
Apr 2018
#182
When the opposition actually lies, cheats and steals and HRC won the popular
democratisphere
Apr 2018
#4
And a hugely biased media. Donnie got 80% of airtime and 80% of what Hillary got was scandal
unblock
Apr 2018
#5
German businesses found out too late that Hitler was not so good for business....
unblock
Apr 2018
#150
I blame the media almost entirely. Their coverage was a disgrace to their profession.
yardwork
Apr 2018
#139
So its a good thing she didn't win anyway, Cuz she'd have gotten nothing done anyway with the GOP?!
Wwcd
Apr 2018
#21
You're wrong by two and a half months. She clinched in early June.
Pope George Ringo II
Apr 2018
#18
Nice to see you Cha. Yep I will never forget it. And I won't let anyone else either.
boston bean
Apr 2018
#123
Her campaign was strong. Her platform was everything America now claims they want in the next Pres.
Wwcd
Apr 2018
#27
She wrote the policy platform. She campaigned on that. That was all in her speeches
Wwcd
Apr 2018
#151
I don't think she was too heavy a favorite in early 2007. She made herself a big favorite by
StevieM
Apr 2018
#43
Again, given all her advantages, she should never have been caught flat-footed by anybody
Pope George Ringo II
Apr 2018
#53
She fucking had 3m more votes than trumpass. Stopin acting like she was some horrid candidate.
boston bean
Apr 2018
#122
Yeah, that was the one eighteen years ago she might have covered the spread.
Pope George Ringo II
Apr 2018
#55
And please don't take it as being okay with Comey, Putin, Fox, Facebook
Pope George Ringo II
Apr 2018
#62
I think she was seen as the superior candidate. But the people were tricked into believing
StevieM
Apr 2018
#171
You should spend more time looking into the politics of New York - especially....
George II
Apr 2018
#100
Well, she built up a huge lead in the first 9 months of 2007. Contrary to popular belief,
StevieM
Apr 2018
#46
Given that the American people were persuaded that she somehow broke the law and got away with it,
StevieM
Apr 2018
#44
Hillary, as the candidate in ultimate control of her campaign has taken responsibility for her loss.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Apr 2018
#67
Who here, or anywhere - certainly not me - admonished Hillary to apologize? For what?
InAbLuEsTaTe
Apr 2018
#174
If Trump was the worst major party presidential candidate in American history,
betsuni
Apr 2018
#130
K & R Cha. The organized injustice done to HRC & to the Dem Party WILL BE made right.
Wwcd
Apr 2018
#30
Glad to see this is finally happening... too bad the lawsuit can't overturn the election...
InAbLuEsTaTe
Apr 2018
#72
And there it is. Saying that not all criticisms of Hillary are true means I think she's perfect.
betsuni
Apr 2018
#65
You originally said, "Hillary would be the first political candidate in U.S. political history ...
betsuni
Apr 2018
#95
I think the certain parts of the electorate who thought HRC was elitist are the ones
betsuni
Apr 2018
#89
And aside from that, she WAS (is) charismatic. She's been the most admired woman in the world....
George II
Apr 2018
#143
She was the most "charismatic" candidate among all of the Democrats, she had substance.....
George II
Apr 2018
#142
My favorite is the claim that she didn't campaign in Pennsylvania, a state that she visited
StevieM
Apr 2018
#79
Again, I readily concede she has taken responsibility for her own mistakes . . .
markpkessinger
Apr 2018
#75
"...many here act.." That's not reality, that's your perception. Don't be so vested in a
uponit7771
Apr 2018
#138
No one is saying she was perfect, that's your strawman. Its obvious people are saying she ...
uponit7771
Apr 2018
#136
she was the victim of the largest disinformation campaign literally in the world's history
Takket
Apr 2018
#92
That's a really great article, deserving of it's own thread. Thanks for sharing!
lunamagica
Apr 2018
#177
TRUE! And let's not forget the fact that it doesn't matter if you have the BEST
lunamagica
Apr 2018
#102
What happened to the 2016 Democratic party candidate will happen to the next one.
betsuni
Apr 2018
#160
Yes, it seems to keep happening. Al Gore actually won both the popular vote and the electoral
jalan48
Apr 2018
#164
Until Bernie supporters stop denigrating one of the most successful American woman politicians
Fla Dem
Apr 2018
#169
Hillary Clinton had the 2nd most popular votes in the history of US Presidential elections.
Fla Dem
Apr 2018
#168
She was a candidate the GOP had beat down for 30 years, making her a WEAK CANDIDATE
krawhitham
Apr 2018
#179