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Bernardo de La Paz

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8. Yes, prepare yourself, there will lots of sturm &drang & some violence, but we will emerge stronger
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 06:28 PM
Apr 2018

There is a big boil on the American body politic and Mueller along with journalists is working hard to lance it. The first aid, remediation and long term healing will be difficult but ultimately confidence in the system will be restored. I think that will happen by the 2030s and in time for the US to provide a stable counterbalance to China or with China.

I expect Mueller will make a report presenting Obstruction of Justice against tRump in the next few months. I'm sure he will release a second report, perhaps a few months later, detailing the Conspiracy against the USA (commonly called "collusion" ). I think both reports have already been written more or less and are being constantly updated and refined as more details accumulate and are discovered. I think Mueller probably has a "dead-hand" switch in place so that if he is fired then both reports will be released and all the sealed indictments will be unsealed.

As Davidson says, the information will come out. The corruption is so large it can't be hidden. It won't be pretty.

It could lead to the collapse of the Republicon Party. Certainly Democrats have an opportunity and duty to keep the Trump and Republican/GOP brands glued and welded together as they actually are. Ryan is leaving now for good reason. He would be smart to hand over the Speaker's gavel now and go silent and fade away, unless or until he is hauled into court, which he may be.

McCONnell is probably guilty as sin of heavy duty crimes because he knew the fix was in when he blocked Merrick Garland from the SCotUS, AND when he refused to warn the states' electoral commissions by telling Obama he would lie if Obama did so himself.

Participants like Sessions, Priebus, Cohen, Manafort, and probably Pence will be completely and utterly disgraced and should get jail time if there is justice, though they will always have believers who to proclaim they are pure as the driven snow.

People like Pruitt, Mnuchin, and Carson are trying to make their ride as cushy as they can for as long as they can. They won't be implicated so much but won't have much of a career afterwards. Ideologues like deVos and Perry will end up being judged stupid.

Mueller will probably increasingly hand off to District offices side crimes that are discovered, particularly business crimes like Michael Cohen's taxi business and Trump's business mess. There will be economic repercussions when tRump's empire crumbles, but the direct effects are likely to be small. Of larger consequence is the stock market which I think has begun a major correction that has a substantial way to go down yet. Trump's family will never be poor but will not be in the 0.01% they think they are entitled to be in.

The most committed ignorant Trump supporters will resort to some violence which may ripple out for a few years after. Part of this may be as a consequence of anger against damage to the NRA gun runners and part will be racism and bigotry that they will be unable to suppress any longer.

This is no time to be complacent, of course.


Prepare yourselves. Winning the Blue Wave of 2018 is top priority for the foreseeable near and medium term. Higher priorities could take center stage for periods on the road to Nov. 2018.

Maintain a calm poised stance and work to advance Democratic power and American democracy whenever possible.
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