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In reply to the discussion: Bernie's Russia Problem [View all]ehrnst
(32,640 posts)267. Yes I did. And yes, they are independent.
Last edited Tue Mar 27, 2018, 09:52 AM - Edit history (3)
Again, you need to research before you make claims.
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You know "all about" health care in other countries? What are your credentials?
Then you also know that the United States is not in the same situation that any other country with universal health care coverage started out in, nor in the same point in history, or in the same era of health care technology, and were not replacing a very entrenched system that had been baked into the economy and delivery of health care for over 60 years. That renders many of the methods by which they got to their current state of health care delivery moot for the US.
You would also know that it's easier to prevent prices from rising than it is to cut them, that other countries rely on sharing costs with private payors as in the case with Canada in Rx.
We can point to what is wrong with the system all day. That's simple. But solving it is not, and it's certainly not going to be done in four years without damage to health care delivery.
I trust independent health care policy analysts more than I trust politicians who disagree with them. Otherwise, I am no wiser than the right winger who insists that clings to the dogma that shutting down Planned Parenthood will end abortions.
Again... attacking a study and/or it's authors as not trustworthy minutes after being presented with a link to it, and saying that you "don't trust" anyone who doesn't support your views on a particular piece of legislation as being based in data, rather than dogma.
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I'm sorry. I'm usually better at picking that up. Late start this morning, still on first cup coffee
Tom Rinaldo
Mar 2018
#14
"Slamming a primary candidate two years later is obsessive and suspicious."
BoneyardDem
Mar 2018
#46
You know, its possible for people to have issues with Bernie without it being suspicious
EffieBlack
Mar 2018
#55
And it only has gotten worse... has alienated a lot of people I know who used to frequent this site.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Mar 2018
#157
Spot on! Bernie may not be perfect - who is?! - but he's invaluable to the Democratic Party...
InAbLuEsTaTe
Mar 2018
#193
Criticism isn't how you grow. It's how Bernie built his brand, and it's why the
R B Garr
Mar 2018
#210
I live in the real world and there are some questions that I have about your proposals
Gothmog
Mar 2018
#305
Again, I live in the real world and you so-called wave or revolution did not happen
Gothmog
Mar 2018
#323
The thing is that the 18-29 age group has historically been the lowest turnout of all....
George II
Mar 2018
#326
The article cited did not support the claim that the sanders revolution was real
Gothmog
Mar 2018
#328
I forget where I saw it when I was researching another post in this discussion....
George II
Mar 2018
#329
So we should ignore that Russia enabled the Oval Office to be stolen from Hillary?
ehrnst
Mar 2018
#231
It doesn't matter what platform was pushed to the left. What mattered was the 75,000 people
R B Garr
Mar 2018
#288
This is just spam. It is just diversion. What legislation has Bernie written to help
R B Garr
Mar 2018
#324
Sen. Sanders is growing his brand at the expense of the Democratic Party...I wish to God he had
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#211
Yikes, I am glad you said this. Will people notice this? Will they be wiling to let this
Eliot Rosewater
Mar 2018
#241
We agree that it was pure self interest. Other than that, please don't assume
lapucelle
Mar 2018
#282
"Only a Dem for the primary, and only if I win" is not a great slogan for our side.
Orsino
Mar 2018
#244
My kids have kept up with wonky info and have moved away from Bernie on their own
BoneyardDem
Mar 2018
#128
Mine too...my one son still likes him but won't vote for him if he runs...worried that it might help
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#212
I don't think that discussing the current public statements of a sitting politician who
ehrnst
Mar 2018
#119
Trump was a primary candiate two years ago. Guess we shouldn't talk about him either.
betsuni
Mar 2018
#138
Understandable, tho certainly not as bad as unwise votes to wage war on innocents based on fake info
InAbLuEsTaTe
Mar 2018
#156
Not that I recall. I wish we could stop arguing with ourselves and if people would just LOOK
Eliot Rosewater
Mar 2018
#105
If you read the article in at the second link in my comment it discusses the
CentralMass
Mar 2018
#29
The worst strategy in any election ever. Throwing darts at a map would have produced better results
njhoneybadger
Mar 2018
#100
There was VSM in Penn too, all red states she was projected to win and lost had VSM !!!
uponit7771
Mar 2018
#163
So primary the safe Dems after Trump is gone...you don't abandon the party...just get better people.
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#106
The second paragraph is for sure right on. You see this on JPR everyday. That is exactly what they
stevenleser
Mar 2018
#47
Um, no Steve, it isn't. Not any more than the PUMA's were representative of Hillary's base in 2008
Tom Rinaldo
Mar 2018
#168
Um, yes Tom, it is exactly emblematic of some Sanders supporters which is exactly what the excerpt
stevenleser
Mar 2018
#181
"Some", the magic word. As representative as PUMA Hillary supporters were of all Hillary Supporters
Tom Rinaldo
Mar 2018
#184
What if our best politicians were hyper-criticized, and attempts were made to dissuade them
InAbLuEsTaTe
Mar 2018
#272
Law & Order, Immigration, and Trade. Lynchpins of the Progressive movement.
Cuthbert Allgood
Mar 2018
#20
We may get better insight into this at 10 AM this morning, Rosenstein might be announcing....
George II
Mar 2018
#23
You are agreeing with the article. The author indicates he does not think Sanders colluded. nt
stevenleser
Mar 2018
#51
This is not a smear job ... ALL of our politicians are going to have to take a stance on the issue
MaryMagdaline
Mar 2018
#34
Pretty obvious isn't it? Maybe it's really "Bernie Bros" secretly workin with Russian troll farms...
InAbLuEsTaTe
Mar 2018
#309
Meh, I only have one problem with Bernie...He didn't show his taxes either.
Wounded Bear
Mar 2018
#39
Not correct. The Russians were using Bernie to attack Hillary during the primaries. We know that now
stevenleser
Mar 2018
#194
The next thing we will find out is that Bernie secretly made millions giving speeches to big
jalan48
Mar 2018
#71
Do you think he got money secretly funneled to him him by American Oligarchs as well?
jalan48
Mar 2018
#75
Lol. Full of fallacies and quite laughable. Either yet another orchestrated hit piece to
KPN
Mar 2018
#80
"It is our politicians we should be questioning, not the truth someone is speaking."
betsuni
Mar 2018
#170
"Holding feet to the fire" and discussing bad voting decisions apply to all politicians.
betsuni
Mar 2018
#172
If Democrats can regain the majority in Congress, these bad bills won't even come up.
yardwork
Mar 2018
#177
I can question something all I like, as can my friends. I expect a politican to also have some
ehrnst
Mar 2018
#299
"Out country is literally crumbling and falling apart in ways that it never has before and people
betsuni
Mar 2018
#235
"If Sanders is going to make any headway with Democrats, hed better change his tune."
treestar
Mar 2018
#176
So many reasons Bernie needs to step up and join Mueller and reality in addressing Russia
R B Garr
Mar 2018
#185
I wish people would look past their admiration for someone, look deeper.
Eliot Rosewater
Mar 2018
#201
Thank you, I wish Bernie would "awaken and see the reality of the political landscape"
Civic Justice
Mar 2018
#206
"Bernie talks and talks, but he never says anything new or different." True! I agree!
NurseJackie
Mar 2018
#207
Yup, it's Bernie's fault we have tRump... that's a sure fire way to promote party unity!
InAbLuEsTaTe
Mar 2018
#276
Your subject is correct, but not the target. You are 180 degrees wrong. nt
stevenleser
Mar 2018
#322
Bernie is also compromised re: The gun industry. He is finished other than as Senator.
blake2012
Mar 2018
#242
Bernie's views on guns is what drives a large portion of his support. White males. nt
LexVegas
Mar 2018
#279
Finished?? The most popular politician of our time?! Guess we'll see about that.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Mar 2018
#307
Our time, meaning active politicians in office, right now. Bernie is FAR from finished...
InAbLuEsTaTe
Mar 2018
#310
No he isn't. He's the "most popular" among his own constituents, the small group of VT voters...
George II
Mar 2018
#331