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In reply to the discussion: Gal Gadots Seemingly Innocent Tribute To Stephen Hawking Pissed Off Some People [View all]Adrahil
(13,340 posts)37. Sometimes this place pisses me off. This is one of them.
Yes "ableism" is a thing. It has been thing for decades.
The problem is this: do not assume that what YOU value in a life is what a disabled person values.
Do not assume that a disabled person, even a person as disabled as Stephen Hawking would see death as a release. The LAST thing disabled people need to hear is that there life is a hell.
Instead, let's try to ensure disabled people can speak for themselves. Let's try to ensure public accommodation is made for disabled people so that they can pursue achievement and a fulfilling life.
Let's not tell disabled people who seek to change the ablist public discourse on disability that they are being ridiculous, even if you think they are. Listen to what they say, and maybe try to understand WHY they might say it.
Full disclosure: My wife is a disability rights advocate and I am partially disabled.
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Gal Gadots Seemingly Innocent Tribute To Stephen Hawking Pissed Off Some People [View all]
Proud liberal 80
Mar 2018
OP
That critique of Gal is right down there with the one we had here slamming the people who...
Hekate
Mar 2018
#6
Excellent post-- it's amazing how some people can take a simple thought and turn it around.
TreasonousBastard
Mar 2018
#9
People who point out that something is offensive are NOT responsible for others' hateful responses
EffieBlack
Mar 2018
#138
And I'd buy this excuse if you'd directed your "fuck them" to the people you felt attacked her
EffieBlack
Mar 2018
#142
Then YOU climb up on a billboard, risking YOUR personal safety & itchy-fingered cops...
Hekate
Mar 2018
#49
Im surprised to see the opinions of disabled people attacked on a liberal discussion board
EffieBlack
Mar 2018
#130
She's not the only one. Lots of people were making ablist assumptions about what it means to
WhiskeyGrinder
Mar 2018
#3
Why are objections from people *living with ALS* or *similar to how Hawking lived* seen as being
WhiskeyGrinder
Mar 2018
#17
But even then one can't take a single similarly affected individual's opinion...
moriah
Mar 2018
#22
But that just show how people can not transcend base tribal instincts with a moment of compassion.
TheBlackAdder
Mar 2018
#75
Anyone who won't admit that being almost completely paralyzed is a shitty way to live...
phleshdef
Mar 2018
#23
I have seen a person in a wheelchair get really upset when someone opened a door for her.
tblue37
Mar 2018
#113
Everyone's "soul" is "bound" by their earthly body, but you don't often see those images in
WhiskeyGrinder
Mar 2018
#32
Except by Shakespeare, Twain, Euripides, Margaret Cavendish, Dostoevsky...
LanternWaste
Mar 2018
#40
I'm getting the idea that your definition of outrage and mine are a little different.
WhiskeyGrinder
Mar 2018
#45
He had physical constraints like none of us can even imagine. A man with such great knowledge,
Doodley
Mar 2018
#35
Nobody is saying that. Do not assume the worst possible interpretation when somebody gives respect
Doodley
Mar 2018
#114
I have not seen any messages that say that. Are you trying to find the worst messages, or are
Doodley
Mar 2018
#115
That is your interpretation. I don't see it that way at all. I doubt the artist intended it to
Doodley
Mar 2018
#128
His wheel chair was not representative of his disability as much as it was his greatness
Tiggeroshii
Mar 2018
#133
Christ, as someone who pushed my FIL's wheelchair for 3 years, that's BS. I think her statement
Hoyt
Mar 2018
#55
Now I'm glad I didn't post the first thing that came into my mind when I heard the news
Generic Brad
Mar 2018
#68
We end up with good people not offering to help people who might need help, or good people
Doodley
Mar 2018
#117
Nowadays you need a script stating how not to offend any given person on any given occasion.
VOX
Mar 2018
#139
I thought she was trying her best to say something wonderful about a wonderful man...
Ferrets are Cool
Mar 2018
#131