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cyclonefence

(4,483 posts)
19. Hear, hear
Fri Mar 16, 2018, 01:14 AM
Mar 2018

I quickly scanned through all the replies to see if there were any from a person with a significant disability. Nope. I continue to be amazed that so many good people refuse to allow the person who is offended to determine what is offensive. As in, white men saying team names like "Redskins" are not offensive--because it doesn't offend *them*.

Ablist? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2018 #1
Yeah I know Proud liberal 80 Mar 2018 #2
That critique of Gal is right down there with the one we had here slamming the people who... Hekate Mar 2018 #6
Excellent post-- it's amazing how some people can take a simple thought and turn it around. TreasonousBastard Mar 2018 #9
It was the FIRST thing I thought leftynyc Mar 2018 #27
Exactly my thought too! Pachamama Mar 2018 #80
How cruel and insensitive! EffieBlack Mar 2018 #129
Sorry, but it's those leftynyc Mar 2018 #137
People who point out that something is offensive are NOT responsible for others' hateful responses EffieBlack Mar 2018 #138
You'd be right IF leftynyc Mar 2018 #141
And I'd buy this excuse if you'd directed your "fuck them" to the people you felt attacked her EffieBlack Mar 2018 #142
Excellent post...very well said! Docreed2003 Mar 2018 #33
That is Christian privilege Cuthbert Allgood Mar 2018 #48
Then YOU climb up on a billboard, risking YOUR personal safety & itchy-fingered cops... Hekate Mar 2018 #49
That's an odd response. How about "why did it have to be crosses"? Cuthbert Allgood Mar 2018 #51
Imagine if atheists had put up 17 red letter A's DavidDvorkin Mar 2018 #61
Five of them were Jewish, one was a teacher Mosby Mar 2018 #73
Im surprised to see the opinions of disabled people attacked on a liberal discussion board EffieBlack Mar 2018 #130
Oh ffs. tymorial Mar 2018 #54
If one of my kids died and someone "memorialized" them with a cross Cuthbert Allgood Mar 2018 #56
Well said. DavidDvorkin Mar 2018 #60
+1 Beartracks Mar 2018 #90
If I'm ever killed in a mass event... DeadLetterOffice Mar 2018 #96
Actually, no. thucythucy Mar 2018 #63
She's not the only one. Lots of people were making ablist assumptions about what it means to WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2018 #3
Speaking as one who's youngest brother died from ALS two years ago Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2018 #4
My condolences. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2018 #12
Hawking did not have MS; he had ALS. Hekate Mar 2018 #7
Thank you! WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2018 #13
He wasn't just in a wheelchair. He couldn't speak. LuvLoogie Mar 2018 #8
Or breathe Hekate Mar 2018 #14
The responses to your thoughtful post are very troubling EffieBlack Mar 2018 #127
Anyone who dies is freed of physical constraints. LuvLoogie Mar 2018 #5
I was thinking the same thing Farmer-Rick Mar 2018 #10
That was my first thought too Bettie Mar 2018 #53
An afterlife Hawking rejected clearly. Cuthbert Allgood Mar 2018 #64
He affected a lot of people with all kinds of beliefs. LuvLoogie Mar 2018 #71
Presumptuous of ME? Cuthbert Allgood Mar 2018 #76
You seem to be taking offense on his behalf. That LuvLoogie Mar 2018 #82
That you OR Dr. hawkins leftynyc Mar 2018 #118
Exactly! Pachamama Mar 2018 #81
Some people just need to be pissed off all time nini Mar 2018 #11
Thank you -- for understanding Hekate Mar 2018 #15
I worked with disabled college students,while in college myself nini Mar 2018 #18
WTAF DeadLetterOffice Mar 2018 #97
That wasn't what I was saying at all nini Mar 2018 #101
THANK YOU nini Skittles Mar 2018 #86
Skittles! nini Mar 2018 #102
HOWDY nini! Skittles Mar 2018 #104
Some people look for ways to be offended. IluvPitties Mar 2018 #16
WAY too many people Skittles Mar 2018 #87
Why are objections from people *living with ALS* or *similar to how Hawking lived* seen as being WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2018 #17
Hear, hear cyclonefence Mar 2018 #19
Why are you amazed? MicaelS Mar 2018 #21
I don't see it that way cyclonefence Mar 2018 #50
But even then one can't take a single similarly affected individual's opinion... moriah Mar 2018 #22
Think of "retarded" like the N word. cyclonefence Mar 2018 #52
I lost the use of my legs forever a few years ago, frogmarch Mar 2018 #119
No one is suggesting you "take offense at everything I can" cyclonefence Mar 2018 #132
I don't need a lecture from you frogmarch Mar 2018 #134
I agree. Of the comments shown in the HuffPo piece... OneGrassRoot Mar 2018 #26
Also... OneGrassRoot Mar 2018 #29
oh for fuck sakes. I read as existential. Javaman Mar 2018 #20
+1,673,285 That seems to be her intent. TheBlackAdder Mar 2018 #41
he supported the BDS movement Mosby Mar 2018 #74
But that just show how people can not transcend base tribal instincts with a moment of compassion. TheBlackAdder Mar 2018 #75
gadot probably knew about his support for bds Mosby Mar 2018 #136
.. Tiggeroshii Mar 2018 #69
Anyone who won't admit that being almost completely paralyzed is a shitty way to live... phleshdef Mar 2018 #23
Amen (n/t) leftynyc Mar 2018 #28
Absolutely right on BannonsLiver Mar 2018 #31
It's not okay to use, actually DeadLetterOffice Mar 2018 #91
I have heard some get offended if you help BannonsLiver Mar 2018 #111
I have seen a person in a wheelchair get really upset when someone opened a door for her. tblue37 Mar 2018 #113
I didn't understand until I read the actual comments. Kentonio Mar 2018 #24
Thank you for reading further and being willing to learn. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2018 #25
I don't think ANYONE is claiming leftynyc Mar 2018 #30
Everyone's "soul" is "bound" by their earthly body, but you don't often see those images in WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2018 #32
Except by Shakespeare, Twain, Euripides, Margaret Cavendish, Dostoevsky... LanternWaste Mar 2018 #40
Go ahead and be outraged leftynyc Mar 2018 #42
But I'm not outraged. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2018 #43
Because everyone is outraged leftynyc Mar 2018 #44
I'm getting the idea that your definition of outrage and mine are a little different. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2018 #45
No - I'm talking about leftynyc Mar 2018 #46
Even atheists go to heaven, according to people who believe in heaven. Beartracks Mar 2018 #89
Thank you for your open mind. DeadLetterOffice Mar 2018 #109
Ridiculous criticism Orange Free State Mar 2018 #34
He had physical constraints like none of us can even imagine. A man with such great knowledge, Doodley Mar 2018 #35
Death did not free him from a damned thing. DeadLetterOffice Mar 2018 #92
I won't be freed from the pain of cancer when I go? Doodley Mar 2018 #112
I'm so sorry you're going through that. DeadLetterOffice Mar 2018 #122
I am disabled ebbie15644 Mar 2018 #36
Sometimes this place pisses me off. This is one of them. Adrahil Mar 2018 #37
You are right Proud liberal 80 Mar 2018 #38
Cheers and thank you!!!! Adrahil Mar 2018 #39
Thank you. Ms. Toad Mar 2018 #66
Thanks for your support! NT Adrahil Mar 2018 #83
THANK YOU!!!! DeadLetterOffice Mar 2018 #108
Nobody is saying that. Do not assume the worst possible interpretation when somebody gives respect Doodley Mar 2018 #114
Please read the posts in this thread... Adrahil Mar 2018 #120
I am disabled... uriel1972 Mar 2018 #140
Except that isn't what she said at all dansolo Mar 2018 #143
I think it is a touching image Tiggeroshii Mar 2018 #47
It assumes an afterlife Hawking absolutely rejected the concept of Cuthbert Allgood Mar 2018 #65
Not to sound depressive, but Tiggeroshii Mar 2018 #67
You have no idea how he felt about that chair. DeadLetterOffice Mar 2018 #93
I have not seen any messages that say that. Are you trying to find the worst messages, or are Doodley Mar 2018 #115
What do you think that touching image above said? DeadLetterOffice Mar 2018 #125
That is your interpretation. I don't see it that way at all. I doubt the artist intended it to Doodley Mar 2018 #128
His wheel chair was not representative of his disability as much as it was his greatness Tiggeroshii Mar 2018 #133
Christ, as someone who pushed my FIL's wheelchair for 3 years, that's BS. I think her statement Hoyt Mar 2018 #55
Just an observation: Nac Mac Feegle Mar 2018 #57
Oh God this is so deeply stupid Loki Liesmith Mar 2018 #58
my thoughts exactly ebbie15644 Mar 2018 #59
yup Skittles Mar 2018 #88
Some people are just ignorant and stupid. NutmegYankee Mar 2018 #62
Now I'm glad I didn't post the first thing that came into my mind when I heard the news Generic Brad Mar 2018 #68
we do not go to BST/DST until Sunday, 25 March Exotica Mar 2018 #70
I can say with confidence that this absolutely did not piss anybody off. Oneironaut Mar 2018 #72
Thank you so much for speaking for the entire disabled community DeadLetterOffice Mar 2018 #94
This has nothing to do with "the disabled community." Oneironaut Mar 2018 #107
You said you could guarantee no one was pisssed off DeadLetterOffice Mar 2018 #110
She meant well. HopeAgain Mar 2018 #77
Hawking would not have been offended Skittles Mar 2018 #78
Thanks, Mr. Hawking's Spokesperson. Adrahil Mar 2018 #84
for fuck's sake Skittles Mar 2018 #85
Why not call me snowflake? NT Adrahil Mar 2018 #105
My thoughts exactly. Doodley Mar 2018 #116
I had a situation like this crop up on a bus ride recently. LisaM Mar 2018 #79
I think the thing to do is to ask a person if you can help. Demit Mar 2018 #98
True, but she was generally contentious. LisaM Mar 2018 #99
Don't stop offering others help nini Mar 2018 #103
We end up with good people not offering to help people who might need help, or good people Doodley Mar 2018 #117
Nowadays you need a script stating how not to offend any given person on any given occasion. VOX Mar 2018 #139
I am so disappointed... DeadLetterOffice Mar 2018 #95
I'm not just disappointed. I'm outraged. Adrahil Mar 2018 #106
More needless poutrage journalism Devil Child Mar 2018 #100
Well, you know us snowflakes, easily offended, amiright? Adrahil Mar 2018 #121
Well I sure dont see anyone calling you crips either BannonsLiver Mar 2018 #123
Ah yes... and why can black people say the n word? Amiright? Adrahil Mar 2018 #124
And Up go the deflector shields. BannonsLiver Mar 2018 #126
I thought she was trying her best to say something wonderful about a wonderful man... Ferrets are Cool Mar 2018 #131
That is how I feel, too. nt leftyladyfrommo Mar 2018 #135
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