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In reply to the discussion: Bernie urges respect for Trump supporters [View all]JCanete
(5,272 posts)276. They trump other concerns in mine too because all others are arrested by them. I'm sorry,
he's right there as far as I'm concerned. They entrench all others. Taking up the class war in a meaningful way could put people of otherwise divided demographics on the same page for once! That would do so much work to help erode those negative misconceptions people have of one another. It would make such nonsense antiquated...counter-productive. It would take so much wind out of the sails of those who have a vested interest in propagating such hateful messaging because it could be pointed to as the cynical tool that it is-- a tactic designed to pit the 99% against itself and sideline any effort towards a common good. Of course it would hardly do all of the work. It would simply let the work actually happen.
As to Sanders opinion on all those things you mention, I know for a fact he's talked about suppressvie voter id laws and that very impact and intention. It just isn't the only thing at issue. If you continue to attack the symptoms and not the virus, the virus is going to get you eventually.
I have no idea what you're talking about regarding Sanders somehow taking advantage(should I read exploiting?) some nonsense about Democrats not being able to tell friend from foe. That isn't what happened here, and if that was always Sanders thing, to try to be relevant by tapping into something or another then he wouldn't have been a mostly obscure Senator/congressperson from vermont for a large portion of his life. No, instead he has remained remarkably consistent whether his message has had anybody to resonate with or not over the decades. And in terms of ideology and policy, he's been remarkably on the right side of things, in my opinion, just about every time.
To my major beef with your original post though, nothing at ll that you just said justifies you claiming sanders feels some way about how Clinton supporters should be treated. That he doesn't care or thinks its cool for them to be trashed, nor is that even a phenomenon I'm aware of amongst Sanders supporters for the most part. It certainly has not had the wings that "deplorables" has had. You just made it up out of whole cloth. You think that he should address a non-phenomenon that makes no sense at all when you consider(as I tried to point out), that Sanders himself officially supported Clinton. I'm happy to hash out these other things with you, but come on, isn't there somehting disingenuous about that original post, or simply hasty based on a feeling you have about him versus any real justification for making such an odd comparisson, and can't we please, avoid going down that road of truthiness on these boards?
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Bernie deserves a 2nd chance in 2020 after startin out 60 pts behind & refusing corporate $$$.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Mar 2018
#156
You mean like they did in 2008? And second chances were given, rightfully so... same for 2020.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Mar 2018
#206
But not the Democratic party which wronged him...apparently. No only Republicans
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#99
Please for gods sake tell me Bernie did NOT just say he was CHEATED in the primary?
Eliot Rosewater
Mar 2018
#179
This is DEMOCRATIC Underground. And last time I looked Sanders is not a Democrat.
TheSmarterDog
Mar 2018
#213
So, it's okay to speak of Bernie in derogatory terms, referrin' to him as drunk, after all he's done
InAbLuEsTaTe
Mar 2018
#218
No, Bernie. How about we reach out to real Democrats and make it easier for them to vote
EffieBlack
Mar 2018
#7
for sowing division among Democrats and urging respect for racist scum sucking Republican voters?
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#100
If you recall, even your favorite, HRC, said that not all Trump supporters were deplorable
aikoaiko
Mar 2018
#149
Of you dont think it matters that millions more voted for us and we lost then youre missing the
onecaliberal
Mar 2018
#272
Me too...he is bitter and angry with the Democratic Party...he can't help himself.
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#102
His words were not twisted...the "I know something about that" makes me see red...and the continuing
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#105
Does he urge respect for Hillary supporters? Just asking, because it would make today's comment...
Hekate
Mar 2018
#16
why wouldn't he? Why would he need to when most Sanders supporters actually voted for Clinton?
JCanete
Mar 2018
#22
again, the standard for such a statement would literally be him going out there
JCanete
Mar 2018
#143
They trump other concerns in mine too because all others are arrested by them. I'm sorry,
JCanete
Mar 2018
#276
Your paragraph 1: Imagine I have wage parity. Ludicrous, I know. But just suppose...
Hekate
Mar 2018
#277
Well Hekate, I said it wouldn't. I said it would take away some of the road-blocks so that
JCanete
Mar 2018
#278
Not once not ever...in fact both he and Trump have blamed Hillary for the Russian interference in
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#106
The title of your post is misleading. A turn of phrase can change the entire meaning of original
diva77
Mar 2018
#21
No, not technically, but he caucuses with Democrats, so that makes him 1 for all intents & purposes.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Mar 2018
#212
BS made his choice. He was a Democrat for a short season only, then went back outside the tent...
Hekate
Mar 2018
#235
Even before the convention convened he had already registered his re-election campaign committee...
George II
Mar 2018
#239
Absolutely, Cha! Gaslighting much? Say it enough times and peope will buy it?
lunamagica
Mar 2018
#60
There was never any such thing before Sen. Sanders...and maybe the 'outreach person'
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#115
What does this mean? Show me where I have it wrong...seriously. I want to be wrong.
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#121
But people vote...and in the end that is what counted...but it is another explantation and I am
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#127
You've brought this up at least three times now. Do you understand what the his position is....
George II
Mar 2018
#161
His opinion? This is not a matter of opinion. It s a FACT that Hillary was the American people's
lunamagica
Mar 2018
#146
Wasn't his opinion that Hillary won fair and square? I kina remember him saying that...
lunamagica
Mar 2018
#148
He talked alot...identity politics, negatively about Democrats and the Democratic Party...
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#110
It is time for Bernie to retire if he doesn't think 45's supporters include racists and sexists.
LonePirate
Mar 2018
#30
"Blerp blarp grarg white working class mumblemumble. identity politics rragh"
Spider Jerusalem
Mar 2018
#35
I know my opinion is unpopular here, but I think Bernie is right on who should decide
Sophia4
Mar 2018
#40
I'm with you Sophia... couldn't have said it better. Can't believe anyone would disagree...
InAbLuEsTaTe
Mar 2018
#215
Your opinion is unpopular because it implies that the rest of us don't want that or that in the last
StevieM
Mar 2018
#45
It is always the voters...the Democratic Party is not going to hop a plane and replace Texas
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#111
I would advise people to reach out and listen to a Bernie voter on that topic.
Sophia4
Mar 2018
#151
I will decide who I am nice to, no you or your wife or anyone else who supports you or Trump
leftofcool
Mar 2018
#41
I don't disagree with 1 thing said. He talks as an elder statesman should. No need for him to
mr_lebowski
Mar 2018
#61
Did you read the whole statement? He accused Hillary of stealing the election again.
yardwork
Mar 2018
#77
He said he understood unfair treatment because he experienced...what pray tell did he mean?
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#112
No, it is code for the primary was stolen...and that those in 'DC' made the decision.
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#116
An "elder statesman" accusing Democrats and Planned Parenthood of being "establishment"
betsuni
Mar 2018
#78
Bernie Sanders on Jeff Sessions: "I'm going to listen to what [he] has to say..."
ucrdem
Mar 2018
#217
I'm not surprised. Trump and Bernie appeal to the same constituents. nt
Tavarious Jackson
Mar 2018
#66
This is why although I voted for Sanders in the Ohio primary, I will never vote for him in
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#95
So it is just fine to attack the Democrats and hint that you 'was done wrong' but Trump
Demsrule86
Mar 2018
#97
How can you respect people who think Donald Trump is the answer ? Pity them perhaps.
OnDoutside
Mar 2018
#104
Oh sure the trumpers want to talk respectfully to POC too . Seen a lot of signs of that Bernie ?
lunasun
Mar 2018
#125
Everyone deserves a 2nd chance. Never would say Hillary's time had passed after she lost to Obama...
InAbLuEsTaTe
Mar 2018
#201
Hey bernie, when are you going to speak out about what Our Revolution did to Sri Preston Kulkarni?
George II
Mar 2018
#139
I don't respect for Trump voters. And I don't respect anyone who tells me I should.
Nailzberg
Mar 2018
#162
At his age Bernie should be content sitting on his porch rocker and yell at kids walking on his yard
onetexan
Mar 2018
#164
Sanders occupies an insular world of wealth, power and privilege, not living with these MFers!!!
FreeStateDemocrat
Mar 2018
#171
BErnie cant really be saying he was cheated in the primary? Are we allowed to talk about
Eliot Rosewater
Mar 2018
#178
I don't disagree with him on the subject of needing to talk to at least some Trump supporters
mythology
Mar 2018
#184
Not everyone in this country belongs to a "Party". Lots of them. They are relevant.
YOHABLO
Mar 2018
#259