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In reply to the discussion: It is entirely possible votes were tampered with!" [View all]questionseverything
(9,654 posts)55. not exactly
http://bradblog.com/?p=11953
https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2016/12/06/sixth-circuit-court-michigan-recount/95044646/
Those seeking the recount argue Michigan's machines are vulnerable to fraud and hackers, and that there were plenty of people with both motive and the ability to interfere with the election. For example, they cited hacking attempts on the Democratic National Committee, Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton and Arizona and Illinois election officials leading up to the election. What raised red flags in the Michigan election, they said, were the 75,000 ballots that were cast by voters who didn't vote for anyone for president roughly double the amount of people who didn't vote for anyone for president in 2012..
"For the voices of Michigan's people to be heard and their votes counted in the 2016 presidential election, Michigan must complete a recount," Stein's attorneys wrote to the 6th Circuit. "In this election, the machines failed to register votes for president in over 75,000 ballots cast ... While many or even most of those ballots may not have contained a vote for president, we know from expert testimony that at least some of them will have simply not been read by the machines. Meanwhile, only approximately one-tenth of one percent of votes needed to have been misread to have affected the outcome of the election. There is also no reason to have confidence that the rest of Michigan's vote was accurately tabulated."
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https://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/2016/12/05/mismatched-numbers-means-precincts-cant-recounted/95015066/
In Wayne County, about one-third of precincts showed discrepancies during the November canvass, said Krista Haroutunian, chair of the Wayne County Board of Canvassers. Those discrepancies could make those precincts 610, including 392 in Detroit ineligible for recount, though a final decision has yet to be made.
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75,000 ballots with no choice for president seems very high in a state decided by 10 thousand votes
personally I don't believe anything the powers that be won't SHOW ME
https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2016/12/06/sixth-circuit-court-michigan-recount/95044646/
Those seeking the recount argue Michigan's machines are vulnerable to fraud and hackers, and that there were plenty of people with both motive and the ability to interfere with the election. For example, they cited hacking attempts on the Democratic National Committee, Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton and Arizona and Illinois election officials leading up to the election. What raised red flags in the Michigan election, they said, were the 75,000 ballots that were cast by voters who didn't vote for anyone for president roughly double the amount of people who didn't vote for anyone for president in 2012..
"For the voices of Michigan's people to be heard and their votes counted in the 2016 presidential election, Michigan must complete a recount," Stein's attorneys wrote to the 6th Circuit. "In this election, the machines failed to register votes for president in over 75,000 ballots cast ... While many or even most of those ballots may not have contained a vote for president, we know from expert testimony that at least some of them will have simply not been read by the machines. Meanwhile, only approximately one-tenth of one percent of votes needed to have been misread to have affected the outcome of the election. There is also no reason to have confidence that the rest of Michigan's vote was accurately tabulated."
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https://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/2016/12/05/mismatched-numbers-means-precincts-cant-recounted/95015066/
In Wayne County, about one-third of precincts showed discrepancies during the November canvass, said Krista Haroutunian, chair of the Wayne County Board of Canvassers. Those discrepancies could make those precincts 610, including 392 in Detroit ineligible for recount, though a final decision has yet to be made.
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75,000 ballots with no choice for president seems very high in a state decided by 10 thousand votes
personally I don't believe anything the powers that be won't SHOW ME
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Those boxes that were found to be tampered with after Stein started a re-count
Maraya1969
Mar 2018
#68
Where does that link lead? It displays as an abbreviated link for me without a discernible domain.
LonePirate
Mar 2018
#3
If you actually understood exit polls are conducted differently here, you'd understand
mythology
Mar 2018
#48
They did it just to prove they could, and then stopped with that! No tampering or altering
Amaryllis
Mar 2018
#80
Ruskies didn't have to change votes. There were plenty of white wing racists and Democratic
Hoyt
Mar 2018
#16
we will never know bacause the powers that be won't let WE THE PEOPLE
questionseverything
Mar 2018
#62
ive always thought tally's were reversed...many of the numbers were backwards than predicted..
samnsara
Mar 2018
#33
The voting machines and the tabulators have electronic "back doors" programed and hard wired...
Botany
Mar 2018
#35
Elections need to be transparent. There should never be a situation where you cannot
diva77
Mar 2018
#44
I'm not an IT guy, but I do know several at my job, and they all say hacking voting machines and
Still In Wisconsin
Mar 2018
#39
Or, you could live in Wisconsin, where the Waukesha County Clerk "finds" 1300 votes on her laptop
Still In Wisconsin
Mar 2018
#47
Computerized voting machines, optiscans, central tabulators etc have never met burden of proof
diva77
Mar 2018
#42
Headline is distorting. And Haseltine was NOT Associate Director of National Intelligence
sharedvalues
Mar 2018
#43
The irony of people defending the vote, the machines and by default republicans
onecaliberal
Mar 2018
#51
Blaming it on "stolen" votes is a sure way to lose next time when the white wingers and Democratic
Hoyt
Mar 2018
#57
No question about Gerrymandering, swiftboating, etc. But we still overcome that when we get out the
Hoyt
Mar 2018
#66
Been sayin' this all along. Check exit polls (MO, WI, NC, PA.MI, FL and more).
joanbarnes
Mar 2018
#69
NO KIDDIN"? You DON'T say... I KNEW that SOMETHING had happened on Election night
The_REAL_Ecumenist
Mar 2018
#71
Repeating the lead thread, it is entirely possible that they tampered with the final count.
leanforward
Mar 2018
#83