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In reply to the discussion: It is entirely possible votes were tampered with!" [View all]mythology
(9,527 posts)48. If you actually understood exit polls are conducted differently here, you'd understand
how absurd the notion of this claim is. Also you have the problem that the national polls were more accurate than in 2012.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/ten-reasons-why-you-should-ignore-exit/
1. Exit polls have a much larger intrinsic margin for error than regular polls. This is because of what are known as cluster sampling techniques. Exit polls are not conducted at all precincts, but only at some fraction thereof. Although these precincts are selected at random and are supposed to be reflective of their states as a whole, this introduces another opportunity for error to occur (say, for instance, that a particular precinct has been canvassed especially heavily by one of the campaigns). This makes the margins for error somewhere between 50-90% higher than they would be for comparable telephone surveys.
4. Exit polls challenge the definition of a random sample. Although the exit polls have theoretically established procedures to collect a random sample essentially, having the interviewer approach every nth person who leaves the polling place in practice this is hard to execute at a busy polling place, particularly when the pollster may be standing many yards away from the polling place itself because of electioneering laws.
https://www.thenation.com/article/reminder-exit-poll-conspiracy-theories-are-totally-baseless/
Heres how exit polling works: In most states, Edison conducts phone interviews before Election Day to capture absentee and early voting. Then, on Election Day, they send staff to between 15 and 50 polling places per state, and they ask between 500 and 3,000 voters to fill out questionnaires indicating which candidate they voted for and what issues are important to them. In order to account for those voters who refuse to fill out a questionnaire, exit pollsters have to adjust their survey data. Lenski says that about 5060 percent refuse to participate. When someone says no, the pollster notes the persons rough age, race, and gender. They then weight their data to match the population that voted at that location.
Some media outlets post preliminary data when the polls closethats the supposedly raw data that, according to the conspiracy-minded, reveal the fraud. But those data have already been merged with the results of those telephone interviews, and they have already been adjusted throughout the day (the interviewers send in their survey results in three waves). Unadjusted data are never released. (If you Google exit polls adjusted New York, youll get back dozens of posts claiming that the unadjusted exit polls varied significantly from the final results. All of those posts are dead wrong, as none of their authors have any idea what the unadjusted data looked like.)
The actual facts are easy to find. I don't get the desire to embrace some utterly unsubstantiated nonsensical conspiracy theory. How is this claim (offered with absolutely zero evidence) any different than Republicans claiming in person voter fraud is a thing?
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Those boxes that were found to be tampered with after Stein started a re-count
Maraya1969
Mar 2018
#68
Where does that link lead? It displays as an abbreviated link for me without a discernible domain.
LonePirate
Mar 2018
#3
If you actually understood exit polls are conducted differently here, you'd understand
mythology
Mar 2018
#48
They did it just to prove they could, and then stopped with that! No tampering or altering
Amaryllis
Mar 2018
#80
Ruskies didn't have to change votes. There were plenty of white wing racists and Democratic
Hoyt
Mar 2018
#16
we will never know bacause the powers that be won't let WE THE PEOPLE
questionseverything
Mar 2018
#62
ive always thought tally's were reversed...many of the numbers were backwards than predicted..
samnsara
Mar 2018
#33
The voting machines and the tabulators have electronic "back doors" programed and hard wired...
Botany
Mar 2018
#35
Elections need to be transparent. There should never be a situation where you cannot
diva77
Mar 2018
#44
I'm not an IT guy, but I do know several at my job, and they all say hacking voting machines and
Still In Wisconsin
Mar 2018
#39
Or, you could live in Wisconsin, where the Waukesha County Clerk "finds" 1300 votes on her laptop
Still In Wisconsin
Mar 2018
#47
Computerized voting machines, optiscans, central tabulators etc have never met burden of proof
diva77
Mar 2018
#42
Headline is distorting. And Haseltine was NOT Associate Director of National Intelligence
sharedvalues
Mar 2018
#43
The irony of people defending the vote, the machines and by default republicans
onecaliberal
Mar 2018
#51
Blaming it on "stolen" votes is a sure way to lose next time when the white wingers and Democratic
Hoyt
Mar 2018
#57
No question about Gerrymandering, swiftboating, etc. But we still overcome that when we get out the
Hoyt
Mar 2018
#66
Been sayin' this all along. Check exit polls (MO, WI, NC, PA.MI, FL and more).
joanbarnes
Mar 2018
#69
NO KIDDIN"? You DON'T say... I KNEW that SOMETHING had happened on Election night
The_REAL_Ecumenist
Mar 2018
#71
Repeating the lead thread, it is entirely possible that they tampered with the final count.
leanforward
Mar 2018
#83