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watoos

(7,142 posts)
26. I have been saying from the very beginning
Sat Mar 10, 2018, 01:54 PM
Mar 2018

that votes were flipped. When experts say there is no evidence that votes were flipped, they are correct, however, there is no proof that votes weren't flipped. 4 manufacturers supply our voting machines and their programs are deemed proprietary. So you tell me, how many machines were pulled aside and independently audited? My guess is zero. How can we determine if voting machines weren't tampered with if we can't check any of them?

We need paper ballots and need them fast.

I've ALWAYS thought that Brainstormy Mar 2018 #1
totally agree AlexSFCA Mar 2018 #56
Those boxes that were found to be tampered with after Stein started a re-count Maraya1969 Mar 2018 #68
duh. Let's get real before November. Please? n/t librechik Mar 2018 #2
Thats my thinking as well. Are we just going to wring our hands onecaliberal Mar 2018 #5
Where does that link lead? It displays as an abbreviated link for me without a discernible domain. LonePirate Mar 2018 #3
Daily Kos Qutzupalotl Mar 2018 #12
Sure, world wide wally Mar 2018 #4
Apparently Putin is blaming the Russian Jews for the messing with Iliyah Mar 2018 #29
By extension dotard is likely illegitimate. Felt good to write that. Enoki33 Mar 2018 #6
No question that dump is NOT the duly elected potus. onecaliberal Mar 2018 #7
Yep. Game changer in at least four states. dchill Mar 2018 #8
I believe this as well pandr32 Mar 2018 #13
Also what raw exit poll data showed. triron Mar 2018 #20
Which is why we can't use exit polls anymore. dchill Mar 2018 #21
Wait! Why can't we use them? nt tomp Mar 2018 #40
If you actually understood exit polls are conducted differently here, you'd understand mythology Mar 2018 #48
well, they used to be accurate before 2000. just saying... nt TheFrenchRazor Mar 2018 #63
yep... they were. liberalla Mar 2018 #74
CALLED cilla4progress Mar 2018 #9
Of course votes were altered! Why else would Russia invest so much money and procon Mar 2018 #10
Exactly! onecaliberal Mar 2018 #11
Adding to that that Putin wants the Arctic oil lunatica Mar 2018 #15
and the kook brothers not fooled Mar 2018 #53
You confuse "voting systems" and "balloting systems." Igel Mar 2018 #17
Nah, They just wanted to take some pictures / sarcasm uponit7771 Mar 2018 #54
They did it just to prove they could, and then stopped with that! No tampering or altering Amaryllis Mar 2018 #80
KGOP & russian гангстерs colluded to destroy American democracy Achilleaze Mar 2018 #14
Ruskies didn't have to change votes. There were plenty of white wing racists and Democratic Hoyt Mar 2018 #16
Here's why we lost -- RandomAccess Mar 2018 #25
Thanks. Good information. onecaliberal Mar 2018 #34
You're most welcome RandomAccess Mar 2018 #36
thanks; people tend to ignore purged voters Hermit-The-Prog Mar 2018 #49
Probably big part of the reason. triron Mar 2018 #59
Not why we lost..but part of why we lost. A piece in the puzzle lunamagica Mar 2018 #32
Yes, many moving parts Cha Mar 2018 #50
I beleive you are describing Russian "bots" Matt_R Mar 2018 #72
This is the only way for them to "win" a national election. dchill Mar 2018 #18
Maybe...but I'm not convinced ewagner Mar 2018 #19
Did you go to the link and read? onecaliberal Mar 2018 #22
How do those "readers" submit data to central tabulating? RandomAccess Mar 2018 #30
The machine tallies ewagner Mar 2018 #88
No, VotER Fraud isn't an issue anywhere but RandomAccess Mar 2018 #90
It wouldnt surprise me, but... bearsfootball516 Mar 2018 #23
sky blue. water wet. duh NRaleighLiberal Mar 2018 #24
I have been saying from the very beginning watoos Mar 2018 #26
Thousands of Detroit ballots were suddently missing and not counted Iliyah Mar 2018 #27
That is incorrect MichMan Mar 2018 #37
not exactly questionseverything Mar 2018 #55
Write in votes dont count MichMan Mar 2018 #58
we will never know bacause the powers that be won't let WE THE PEOPLE questionseverything Mar 2018 #62
Have been saying this from day one. Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #28
I have never doubted it happened. The election was stolen lunamagica Mar 2018 #31
It was stolen via propaganda and 'hacking minds' sharedvalues Mar 2018 #46
ive always thought tally's were reversed...many of the numbers were backwards than predicted.. samnsara Mar 2018 #33
The voting machines and the tabulators have electronic "back doors" programed and hard wired... Botany Mar 2018 #35
The "red shift" is relative to raw exit polls. triron Mar 2018 #67
Uh, No Cheviteau Mar 2018 #38
Elections need to be transparent. There should never be a situation where you cannot diva77 Mar 2018 #44
yep; it's amazing how many "faith-based voters" we have here. nt TheFrenchRazor Mar 2018 #64
I'm not an IT guy, but I do know several at my job, and they all say hacking voting machines and Still In Wisconsin Mar 2018 #39
Ive read the same. My husband was an IT Director onecaliberal Mar 2018 #41
Or, you could live in Wisconsin, where the Waukesha County Clerk "finds" 1300 votes on her laptop Still In Wisconsin Mar 2018 #47
Computerized voting machines, optiscans, central tabulators etc have never met burden of proof diva77 Mar 2018 #42
Headline is distorting. And Haseltine was NOT Associate Director of National Intelligence sharedvalues Mar 2018 #43
OK, I'm skeptical of this article. sharedvalues Mar 2018 #45
The irony of people defending the vote, the machines and by default republicans onecaliberal Mar 2018 #51
Blaming it on "stolen" votes is a sure way to lose next time when the white wingers and Democratic Hoyt Mar 2018 #57
We already know they steal the vote by suppressing onecaliberal Mar 2018 #65
No question about Gerrymandering, swiftboating, etc. But we still overcome that when we get out the Hoyt Mar 2018 #66
Can you correct the post? Not Dir of Natl Intel american_ideals Mar 2018 #78
Yes! Propaganda and voter registration issues we know about american_ideals Mar 2018 #76
Our Only Chance Might Be If Mueller Knows & Is Following Tangent SoCalMusicLover Mar 2018 #52
THIS is why you dont speculate idly american_ideals Mar 2018 #79
If The Democrats Really Care About My Vote SoCalMusicLover Mar 2018 #89
If we care about the country, we VOTE. And we vote DEM. Every time. american_ideals Mar 2018 #91
Something we've known since 2000. aikoaiko Mar 2018 #60
no sh*t. nt TheFrenchRazor Mar 2018 #61
Been sayin' this all along. Check exit polls (MO, WI, NC, PA.MI, FL and more). joanbarnes Mar 2018 #69
No way! They broke into voting machines to NOT change votes! Iggo Mar 2018 #70
NO KIDDIN"? You DON'T say... I KNEW that SOMETHING had happened on Election night The_REAL_Ecumenist Mar 2018 #71
I, also have always thought votes were tampered with blueinredohio Mar 2018 #73
As a former IT professional LittleGirl Mar 2018 #75
Ugh. Sketchy source. Bad article. american_ideals Mar 2018 #77
kick for visibility triron Mar 2018 #81
We should be reflecting on the fact that we've lost our democracy jimlup Mar 2018 #82
Repeating the lead thread, it is entirely possible that they tampered with the final count. leanforward Mar 2018 #83
Interesting court testimony from computer programmer on election hacking triron Mar 2018 #84
knr triron Mar 2018 #85
K&R betsuni Mar 2018 #86
Computer experts at Rice University and elsewhere worked with the Travis summer_in_TX Mar 2018 #87
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